Covid 19 / Coronavirus

[NullVoid]

Just had a walk past Tesco where there was a very long line of people waiting to get in but not one of them wearing a face covering despite the Scottish governments recommendation  to do so  . Why is there this huge reluctance to wear masks ? Is it because people are ammbaristed to wear one or just can't be bothered ? At the very least the staff should be wearing ones but they don't bother either as far as I can see .

I saw somebody in Tesco dressed as a plague doctor last month

[Capeesh]

Just had a walk past Tesco where there was a very long line of people waiting to get in but not one of them wearing a face covering despite the Scottish governments recommendation to do so . Why is there this huge reluctance to wear masks ? Is it because people are ammbaristed to wear one or just can't be bothered ? At the very least the staff should be wearing ones but they don't bother either as far as I can see .

Speaking for myself, I'm ashamed to admit not wearing a mask or covering my face is down to embarrassment.

I could come up with several excuses to try and hide my personal weakness... limited supply, uncomfortable to wear, cultural thing, mixed messages from the government etc but it would all be BS, the main reason is vanity and worrying about what people think.

The funny thing is I've seen loads of people covering their face and wearing masks and I never once looked down on them or thought they looked silly or alarming, the thing that goes through my head is "sensible precaution, we should all be doing this".

The evidence suggests it's a no-brainer, it not only gives yourself a measure of protection it also helps protect others from you, particularly with this virus where you can still carry and spread it without showing symptoms.

I suppose they could supply a mask and make it compulsory to wear one where physical distancing becomes difficult like in shops, public transport etc or have some kind of media campaign, I know in the 1918 flu epidemic in New york the health board there had a campaign slogan about wearing masks..."better be ridiculous, than dead."

Edited May 9, 2020 by Capeesh

[Ghostrider]

I never thought I'd live to see the day when walking in to a bank wearing a mask was an acceptable thing to do.

 

If I was frequenting town businesses I'd wear a mask and never give it a second thought, but I try and avoid the place at the best of times, and have just completely avoided it since this crap started. Social distancing is easy enough pretty much every place else, its no different to how I prefer to live all the time anyway. The thought of embarrassment/my appearance when wearing one had never crossed my mind until I read this.

 

Most folk would probably consider any mask a vast improvement on the usual fizzog I wear.

 

If anything would put me off wearing a mask, its the profiteering prices soe have charged for them since this crap got going. Yeah, yeah, I know, supply and demand and all that, and that's fine, but there are justifiable price hikes when demand for a product suddenly skyrockets, and there's holding folk to ransom.......

[Windwalker]

I ordered some washable ones of Amazon several weeks ago at an extortionate price, still waiting for delivery. If proper masks were readily available the government would likely make wearing masks, when out, compulsory rather than a recommendation.

 

There has been so much waffle about the pros and cons regarding wearing of masks up to now and it would likely be better for everyone if like some other countries they handed them out and made you wear them. Unfortunately our manufacturing industry is all but non existent and we rely on cheap imports from the likes of China, so its difficult to get hold of good quality masks. Leaving it up to everyone to come up with their own makeshift masks can lead to a false sense of protection and more face touching whilst trying to adjust for comfort.

 

I shake my head every time I see a person on the telly with the mask not covering their nose or hanging around their neck. 

[Ghostrider]

^ Careful, you'll end up being accused of spreading conspiracy theories with that kinda talk.

 

A virus from China, that the rest of the world end up buying masks made in China as protection from it........ I wonder if China had a few massive warehouses stuffed full of masks nobody was buying around last autumn time, and the big chiefs got to thinking......

[NullVoid]

THIS JUST IN!
 

https://www.orcadian.co.uk/easing-of-lockdown-restrictions-could-begin-from-may-28/
The first phase is expected to begin after Thursday, May 28

In new measures, people will be allowed to:
    Be able to sit in the park
    Meet up outdoors with someone from another household, as long as you stay socially distanced
    Outdoor sporting activities such as golf and fishing
    Garden centres and recycling facilities will re-open

 

[Frances144]

I would wear a Niqab but they aren’t actually a good enough mask/filter for covid19.  A pity because I would seriously consider one for myself.  It would cover up a multitude!

[NullVoid]

I would wear a Niqab but they aren’t actually a good enough mask/filter for covid19.  A pity because I would seriously consider one for myself.  It would cover up a multitude!

you could just use a fabric with better properties, an interesting history behind is as this Atheist German man of Turkish Muslim Ancestry explains.

[Frances144]

thank you. I am researching this.  Trying to find someone who could make me one using the most effective material.  An untapped market, I think.  Any help gratefully received.  I cannot sew.

[NullVoid]

rather than link to an amazon listing i have a video that has a source of material but actually goes over it in detail too.

 

keep 3 things in mind!

 

1. Religious people think their god has their back so they will be skeptical about this the most educated female Muslims are the least likely to wear full cover.

 

it is worn only the most insular Muslim communities that self segregate from even other Muslims in Britain wear this and mostly as a result of their being separate from the wider society and living in homogeneous enclaves where everybody is like that.

 

Secondly they do NOT do it for religious reasons per se

 

Religious fundamentalism in enclaves in the west is sometimes more extreme than people in majority Muslim countries because they are trying to prove loyalty and don't want people to think they are being corrupted by the "Sinners" who drink and do things that are Haram.

 

(Morocco a majority Muslim contry does not allow full cover for the same reason you aren't meant to wear a crash helmet in a bank)

 

 

another component is that Islamic countries that westernized in the post ww2 era had some regimes that overthrow the western type governments and around the middle to end of the cold war pursued a policy of Anti-westernization

 

Reza Shah and Atatürk were key figures in westernization the middle east

Learn about the deposition of Pahlavi dynasty in 1979s Iran if you want to know where the dominoes started to fall to make this normal.

in retrospect its a an incredibly sad story

 

This type of person is a possible consumer you could market to.

as the white progressives in the west also pursue a policy of De-westernization

 

 

thank you. I am researching this.  Trying to find someone who could make me one using the most effective material.  An untapped market, I think.  Any help gratefully received.  I cannot sew.

 

 

Because this material is not suitable for most machines for sewing machine and you are making something bigger than a mask use leather type stitches.

 

rather than using 1 needle to sew with 1 threads use 2 threads and an Awl with a needle hole and a regular needle for the other side.

 

Step 1 to sew leather style

pierce the 2 fabrics at the front with awl tie the bottom of the other thread to the protruding thread at the back.

 

Step 2

Once back thread is tied to front thread add regular needle to back thread

 

Step 3

Pull awl out and price further along the line you want to sew

 

Step 4

tie all the threads coming from the front at the back with the regular needle

 

Other ways to do it but that's 1 way look at how a bobbin hook works in sewing machine if you don't follow

Edited May 19, 2020 by NullVoid

[Frances144]

I just wanted to buy one, that’s all.

[Frances144]

I can sew. I won’t sew. It does not bring out the best in me. Ever. End of.

[NullVoid]

 Hire a Tailor then

 

I just wanted to buy one, that’s all.

 

I can sew. I won’t sew. It does not bring out the best in me. Ever. End of.

Edited May 19, 2020 by NullVoid

[Davie P]

So... should Dominic Cummings resign, or be sacked if he doesn't resign?

 

It seems Boris Johnson is taking quite a political gamble over this

[Roachmill]

Maybe we should all go stay with his extended family as that's clearly OK. And yet I shouldn't go visit my own mother a few miles away.

 

He should go. I'm being polite.