Scottish Independence Referendum 2021

[Ghostrider]

^ Very true. The trouble is the arrogant know-it-alls who are trying to convince that Scot's independence is the thing and have their eye on the top jobs of such an entity. are giving scant sign of even giving a damn how others have made it work, let alone taking any of their tried and tested ideas on board.

The 'Document' produced by the SNP prior to the last referendum is all the evidence you need, extremely heavy on soundbite, catchphrase romanticised 'independence' and fluffy light on any meat.

Make the idea work robustly on paper, with hard facts and numbers, and enough folk might just go for Indy, but its pitiful the way indy supporters have gone whining on since the referendum with excuses as to how/why they were 'done over', when all they ever gave the rest of us to vote on was the sizzle, not the steak.

[George.]

^Hmmm.

7 hours ago, Ghostrider said:

^ Very true. The trouble is the arrogant know-it-alls who are trying to convince that Scot's independence is the thing and have their eye on the top jobs of such an entity. are giving scant sign of even giving a damn how others have made it work, let alone taking any of their tried and tested ideas on board.

You do get the arrogant know-it-alls spread all across the United Kingdom of Great Britain, and IMHO, Westminster is prime to the case. That's just my opinion, of course.

Vote S.N.P, vote Alba, vote anything bar the vast majority that hang around Westminster.

Edited May 3, 2021 by George.

[Wheelsup]

vote anything bar the sort that hang around Westminster.

Including Ian Blackford and his pals!

They are, after all,  politicians and in in for the glory and the power.  I don't believe the greater majority are in it for the People. They just want a seat at the Lairds table.

[Windwalker]

I’m sure I read, not long ago, that Blackford and many SNP MPs claimed the highest expenses in Westminster. I’m surprised they want to jump off the gravy train.

@george, you keep telling us to vote SNP or Alba, but I’m yet to here you give some good reasons why. Your clear hatred of everything English and Westminster seem to be blindfolding your reality of voting without knowing the possible consequences. IMHO of course.

 

[George.]

Alistair Carmichael stated, in 2015, that he would be out of politics at the next election. He's still here.

Splendid guy, splendid

^ps I have nothing against the English, but the U.K. is different - as is its government.

Edited May 3, 2021 by George.

[Windwalker]

And again you deflect, by looking to blame someone else for something.

if you really  believe you have nothing against the English, you maybe need to reflect on dozens of your previous post, which clearly suggest otherwise.

plus can I remind you we are part of the U.K. Blackford is part of it, the SNP are part of it.

[hakama]

Windwalker, I 100% agree with you as regards George, So negative biased etc no straight answers. Is he/she a politician.

[MuckleJoannie]

Ian Blackford's expenses seem to be similar to Aliatair Carmichael's, which is not surprising as they represent some of the most remote constituencies in the UK..https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/ian-blackford/4390

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/alistair-carmichael/1442

[Windwalker]

Du is right on Cameron’s but my point, which I obviously didn’t make clear, is that the SNP seems to claim much more then most who represent remote communities. I think at one point they were 9 out of the top 10 claiming expenses. 
 

other parties representing the same remote communities were much lower. 

[Urabug]

Do not believe anything that our prospective politicians are promising, let us remember that this country and the whole world has to recover from the terrible results financially that Covid19 has brought on us all.

I will bet we will see more austerity throughout the country irrespective  what party is in power,simply because we do not have the resources to fund it. 

I see big cuts in our "services" looming ahead because we will not be able to raise enough funds to support them.

The government did well to support furlough,although it did not help everyone,but this money will no doubt have to be recouped and only You and I ,the taxpayers  can do that. 

Good luck to anyone who in five years time can say they got what they voted for. 

[hakama]

I notice that Sturgeon is saying there is a case for fixed links and that she is supportive of self determination. It is all a con. Do not vote on false promises.

[Ghostrider]

On 03/05/2021 at 08:07, George. said:

^Hmmm.

You do get the arrogant know-it-alls spread all across the United Kingdom of Great Britain, and IMHO, Westminster is prime to the case. That's just my opinion, of course.

Vote S.N.P, vote Alba, vote anything bar the vast majority that hang around Westminster.

They're all as bad as each other as far as I'm concerned.

Its Holyrood who are courting our vote at the moment, so its the arrogant know-it-alls who hang around their that are the current concern. When Westminster are seeking our vote, I'll say the same about those there.

I'm non-discriminatory like that me. I'll call em on how they act, party colours are irrelevant.

Edited May 4, 2021 by Ghostrider

[Ghostrider]

On 03/05/2021 at 22:37, MuckleJoannie said:

Ian Blackford's expenses seem to be similar to Aliatair Carmichael's, which is not surprising as they represent some of the most remote constituencies in the UK..https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/ian-blackford/4390

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/alistair-carmichael/1442

The trouble with Blackford and his fellow SNP MP's is perhaps not so much how much they cost, but of the value for money they represent.

SNP MP's especially have re-written the definition of an 'opposition MP'. the purpose of an opposition MP or party is to attempt to negotiate with the Government to try and win some of modification or concession that benefits the portion of the electorate they represent. The SNP MP's are by no means the only ones at it, but they make the biggest meal out of it, in that they interpret the role of being an opposition MP or party as simply criticising and voting against anything and everything the Governent proposes doing, up to and including opposing things that if they themselves were in Government they'd be trying to enact themselves.

Their interpretation of 'opposition' is that it is literal and must always be adhered to on principle whatever the cost, which is their choice to make. What gets me though is, that the folk who vote in SNP MP's do so when those MP's operate in such a way that makes it impossible for them to achieve anything for their constituents, only blow their own trumpet and pull a salary for doing it.

[George.]

10 hours ago, Ghostrider said:

They're all as bad as each other as far as I'm concerned.

Not one single one of them is perfect but some are less perfect than others.

Tony Blair, North Sea marine border, a bit of sea with oil in it that is now Englands, and there are dozens more.

But some are less perfect than others. Some are our friends and some are our enemies.

Vote S.N.P.

Edited May 5, 2021 by George.

[Urabug]

Let us all remember that without the help of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and many other country's besides the North Sea oil would probably still be lying under the North Sea.

If the expertise required to recover the oil had been left to Scotland I doubt if we would have succeeded so well, but thanks to the efforts and technical abilities of many countries 

Britain gained from the North Sea oil as did many others.

This is just one example where it is better to work together as one.

How many different nationalities were involved in building Sullom Voe.

The way the financial gains from oil were squandered is another story and many of our own councillors of the time should surely hang their heads in shame. 

This is a time when sticking together as one nation and trying to be as "equal" as possible is so important to us all.