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Also proposed as being straightforward allegory, in a time when those who left the Jewish faith were considered 'dead' to the devout and priests generally required their 'flock' to come to them, an open-minded priest who accepted this guy Lazarus back into the fold after his conversion to another faction.

Thought you said you'd researched the matter.

 

Yes I have long known that if Lazarus came back from the dead (if such a guy ever lived) it was not in the zombie style christians subscribe to but a return to church away from the dead of the world. I was just having a dig at them who can only think in literal terms about such writings.

 

It may have been said, that mankind has moved through ages of magic then religion then science, Could be that all three have had major effects on who we are or it could be a work in progress as the lifeforce we share searches through all of us for a way to join the dots so we can realise that it may all be the one thing and it was the same thing that was doing the looking all along; just a thought.

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Religion is like technology, it is who holds it and what they do with it that forms our prejudices about it. Nurture or destroy. It is a shame that many have chosen to destroy, for ends political or financial. (Applicable to both!) :wink:

 

At least with technology Njugle. When it heats up you can build a fan or somethig on it to help it keep cool but with Religion a fan just push’s the hatred that all Religion nuts worship even higher.

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At least with technology, people don't make huge, sweeping generalisations about it as if they can speak for all technologies, everywhere. While with religion people form an opinion from a couple of the main players and then apply it to the whole subject. :wink: :P

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An interesting take on the debate:

The closest analogy I can think of is with a team of defence lawyers.

 

Theologians may debate with great erudition, impressive command of facts, sparkling insight and logical rigour – but all of these are harnessed in the service of the conclusion that is taken as given: their client’s innocence of the crime of non-existence.

From his blog: http://viva-freemania.blogspot.com/2009/02/theologians-and-their-imaginary-client.html

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Koyaanisqatsi are you just quoting that video off of youtube? Because that's not all correct.

 

Yeah I don't deny there are similar accounts in religion, in many stories, not just the birth/life of Christ.

 

All being born on the 25th of December how can you prove that? I mean if you read up Kirishna you'll see he was born in the Summer.

 

Right enough there Marm, Most sources do say about Kirishna being born in july, but if you check on "zeitgeist the movie" again, it does not say that Krishna was born on the 25th December, though the many other man gods mentioned were.

 

Thank you for that correction; I shall try to keep my blaspheming more accurate in future.

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^^ There's also the camp that would argue that Christ's birth being cited as December is a pile of garbage invented for convenience to match with the pre-existing events calendar. As, or so they argue, no flocks, or shepherds to watch them are or were out on the Bethlehem hills in December, as there is no grazing there for them at that time of year, and any shepherd spending the night there, like here, would most likely be a stiff long before morning.

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Concept of 'hypercosmic God' wins Templeton Prize

Today the John Templeton Foundation announced the winner of the annual Templeton Prize of a colossal £1 million ($1.4 million), the largest annual prize in the world.

The award will be presented to him by the Duke of Edinburgh at Buckingham Palace on 5 May.

 

Well HALEfrickenULAH :roll: , :roll: and thrice :roll:

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I always thought religion was a way of frightening the masses into submission by those folk who could read.

Was like community control, the commandments, well they stop fights and upsets and have a rule there to kill folk who question them..

 

That's what I was taught as well, in Anthropology class at uni. It's one of the few things I remember! "Religions were brought about during times of political turmoil as a method to control the people."

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Concept of 'hypercosmic God' wins Templeton Prize

Today the John Templeton Foundation announced the winner of the annual Templeton Prize of a colossal £1 million ($1.4 million), the largest annual prize in the world.

The award will be presented to him by the Duke of Edinburgh at Buckingham Palace on 5 May.

 

Well HALEfrickenULAH :roll: , :roll: and thrice :roll:

The Templeton prize rewards a deliberately higher quantity of cash than the Nobel Prize.

 

Guess which one is more respected :)

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