Fjool Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi, sorry that my first response to you is a rant also, but like follows like No hard feelings intended. 3 of that 4 are now DEAD... long before their time... (more statistics).... etc How many cannabis smokers who didn't habitually smoke on your premises, and weren't barred, have died. How many alcohol users, who weren't barred, have died? Almost everyone in your bar was using alcohol, therefore alcohol is implicated in all groups you can care to draw up. How did the percentage of cannabis users in your 'barred' sample, compare to the percentage of cannabis users in your 'not barred' sample? Or how about this...? Of the 72 people barred from your business, 5% were barred because they smoked dope. Of that 5%, 75% have since died. To summarise: 4% of people who were barred and smoked cannabis, have died since being barred. Of the 68 people not barred for smoking cannabis, almost 6% have since died! The message is clear. Or, more likely, I just hashed around a bunch of statistics to suit my argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlady Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 sorry fjool but Im talking about real people not percentages..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 sorry fjool but Im talking about real people not percentages..... It doesn't matter. You're claiming a thing and I am demonstrating how this is not a complete picture. You've missed many possibilities and drawn a conclusion based upon but a sliver of the full story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 <---snip---> 4 of them were barred on separate occasions for repeatedly smoking cannabis, they couldnt do without it! even after being warned that even out the back of the pub was still "on the premises"..... 3 of that 4 are now DEAD... long before their time...<---snipped too---> What proof do you have that the 3 deceased became such directly and exclusively as a result of their cannabis habit? Also, to be brutally blunt, what business is it of anyone's whether cannabis contributed to their early demise or not? The choice to use was their's, end of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlady Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 <---snip---> 4 of them were barred on separate occasions for repeatedly smoking cannabis, they couldnt do without it! even after being warned that even out the back of the pub was still "on the premises"..... 3 of that 4 are now DEAD... long before their time...<---snipped too---> What proof do you have that the 3 deceased became such directly and exclusively as a result of their cannabis habit? Also, to be brutally blunt, what business is it of anyone's whether cannabis contributed to their early demise or not? The choice to use was their's, end of!I have no proof nor would I go into it cause if I did everyone would know who I m talking about! nor do I need to justify it cause its a fact...no ones buisness unless it directly effects them or their families, but thankfully the 1 remaining addict has listened and did not dismiss what I had to say...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 tlady wrote:<---snip---> 4 of them were barred on separate occasions for repeatedly smoking cannabis, they couldnt do without it! even after being warned that even out the back of the pub was still "on the premises"..... 3 of that 4 are now DEAD---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Erm, christ, were to start with this one. Right first of sorry again FJOOL love ya really can we just call our first meet a missfire.(**mod edit**) who the do you find that still believes booze is the healthy option when alcohol and tobacco kill more than all illegal drugs combind times 1000. Marihuana a drug that kills noone and lets put it in a time frame EVER. It's a better drug here I'll prove it, your on a night out someones really aggresive and violent are they drunk or are they stoned yeh you know it and we all know the truth too (**mod edit**) 1. You agree, through your use of the Shetlink website, that you will not post (or hyperlink to) any material or use language which is defamatory, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, inciting of violence, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or in violation of ANY UK law. Personal attacks, inflammatory posts, harrassment, impersonation and trolling will not be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 sorry about typing on last entry was a bit drunk at time, ran out of blo and fell through that damn gateway theory again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 <---snip---> 4 of them were barred on separate occasions for repeatedly smoking cannabis, they couldnt do without it! even after being warned that even out the back of the pub was still "on the premises"..... 3 of that 4 are now DEAD... long before their time...<---snipped too---> What proof do you have that the 3 deceased became such directly and exclusively as a result of their cannabis habit? Also, to be brutally blunt, what business is it of anyone's whether cannabis contributed to their early demise or not? The choice to use was their's, end of!I have no proof nor would I go into it cause if I did everyone would know who I m talking about! nor do I need to justify it cause its a fact...no ones buisness unless it directly effects them or their families, but thankfully the 1 remaining addict has listened and did not dismiss what I had to say...... Unless you do have proof the the cause of death on their Death Certificates states "Cannabis", there is no fact involved, only supposition. Which, I think most folks would agree serves no purpose except keeping the jungle drums beating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 seems the poxy runners of this site have little room for any real discussing thanks for another black out guys you leave a lot of room for debate really ok you made your sides clear I'm surprised your puritanical church lets you on the web at all thought you'd all be in bed cuddling your bibles by now free speech my a*@e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 seems the poxy runners of this site have little room for any real discussing Actually, mate, I find the mods here to be very well adjusted and helpful. They have to have some kind of guidelines though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 generally the only thing that gets deleted are abusive posts that are directly aimed at making it personal. If I was Mod here I would of banned you for having your name all in block capitals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriebryan Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 KOYAANISQATSI, read your Private Messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachmill Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 On a slightly lighter note I have passed on my "real life" statistics to the last remaining cannabis addict and warned them what will happen if they dont kick the habit!...... I bet they needed a stiff drink after that Do you inform your best customers (alcohol addicts) what will happen if they don't stop drinking and ban them too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlady Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 On a slightly lighter note I have passed on my "real life" statistics to the last remaining cannabis addict and warned them what will happen if they dont kick the habit!...... I bet they needed a stiff drink after that Do you inform your best customers (alcohol addicts) what will happen if they don't stop drinking and ban them too?They prob did! but not from me, cause they re banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 They prob did! but not from me, cause they re banned What you did what to who now?. And I thought my dealer was unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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