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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

Mmmm okies so you have a point with some of the things thats been said but right now I do suffer a bit from depression due to the death of my mother, and to be honest.. my fault for bringing up the subject and putting myself into the firing line, but really in all seriousness... I cant be arsed getting into serious debates at the minute.. brain not equipped.. so sorry for being touchy...

 

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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

So are you now claiming Darkstar III must have been sleep walking ?

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

Is it an anecdote though ?

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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

So are you now claiming Darkstar III must have been sleep walking ?

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

Is it an anecdote though ?

 

Sleep paralysis has nothing to do with sleepwalking Frankie.

 

I've experienced it a couple of times immediately after waking. The brain is awake but for all intents and purposes, the body is still asleep. Have a look at Fjool's link for more information on it.

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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

So are you now claiming Darkstar III must have been sleep walking ?

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

Is it an anecdote though ?

 

I was fully awake when any pictures were taken or when I experienced any phenomena...

 

but if you want to talk about astral projection... spells, voodo, witchcraft, wicca, paganism, demonology, occultism, pantheons etc... LMAO

 

JOKING

 

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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

So are you now claiming Darkstar III must have been sleep walking ?

 

 

Sleep paralysis has nothing to do with sleepwalking Frankie.

 

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It looked to me that DSIII was walking around in that graveyard. So are you saying then that she had just woken up ?

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As far as I can see Darkstar III 's evidence is based on personal experience. Fjool, are you saying she's not telling the truth ? :lol: :lol:

 

Ahar... Frankie you old sausage. :lol:

 

Well... no. Personally I've experienced many things such as a malevolent alien prescence in my bedroom. The fact is that it happened while I was at home, in bed, at the point of waking. Rather than run around claiming to have seen ghosts and demons, I explored the subject learned a lot about sleep paralysis and the associated hallucinations that often go with this.

 

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable.

 

So are you now claiming Darkstar III must have been sleep walking ?

 

 

Sleep paralysis has nothing to do with sleepwalking Frankie.

 

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It looked to me that DSIII was walking around in that graveyard. So are you saying then that she had just woken up ?

 

I have never known myself to wander around graveyards in a state of sleep... lol

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Well I wasn't suggesting that was the cause in her case as she is, quite clearly, wide awake. The "Sleep paralysis" post was referring to the "I woke up and there was something in my room, but then it was gone" reports that you hear of, I would guess that a fairly high percentage of them are down to this.

 

I had a look at some of the Ghosthunter sites you mentioned earlier in the thread Darkstar. They made some interesting reading, I read through a couple of the "visit" reports on the Ghosthunter Scotland forums and the majority of evidence that they seemed to produce was "I felt this presence" or "he felt that presence" which can neither be proved nor disproved.

 

I also noticed the "Ghost photo" forum which seemed interesting, I couldn't see any of your pics in there but it might be a good idea to post them as one poster...whose name I forget...seemed to have their head pretty screwed on when it came to explaining anything caught on camera. One example was a picture of a room in Dunfermline (I think) where there was an obvious "purple orb" over the posters face...whilst the poster seemed intent on labelling this as "supernatural phenomena", they failed to notice the 100-watt lightbulb they had directed shining into the camera producing a classic example of lens flare...Myth Busted.

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Orbs hmm... I think some are true, some not. I've seen a couple of pictures with what I would call geniune orbs at my work (I work as an Office Manager at an Estate Agents so work with a lot of the pictures) they didn't go on the schedules for that property.

 

I've attended psychic develpment circles myself and while my group were fairly down to earth *ahem* as it were we met others groups who were intent that anything that happened to them was something otherworldy and spirit was trying to contact them now to me that is just avoiding all responsibility for your life.

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Orbs hmm... I think some are true, some not. I've seen a couple of pictures with what I would call geniune orbs at my work (I work as an Office Manager at an Estate Agents so work with a lot of the pictures) they didn't go on the schedules for that property.

 

I've attended psychic develpment circles myself and while my group were fairly down to earth *ahem* as it were we met others groups who were intent that anything that happened to them was something otherworldy and spirit was trying to contact them now to me that is just avoiding all responsibility for your life.

 

Yes I agree... and I am not taking personally what you said, but I have never once said that any pictures I have taken have been orbs, or that every experience I have are paranormal ones.. I am only picking out the ones that I believe may be.... due to paranormal activity... that is all...

 

I have had plenty orbs on many pictures that I have taken and I wouldnt say that all of them are actually paranormal, most I would say is atmospheric phenomena be it dust, water droplets etc...

 

Its defining which is which...

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:D Hey... I was wondering if there was an interest in the Paranormal in Shetland???? [/b]

 

 

Thought I would just add to your interest and enthusiasm to this subject Darkstar III on a very real experience only a few bare witnesses too. I am not going to expand any more on this area as the subject is a very sad and real experience no one would ever wish to go through.

 

There are several Polaroid photographs taken in the chapel of rest in Shetland, which was quiet normal under the circumstances to do so, that would shock even the most sceptic people in the world, and the few people mentioned above are some of those. Very clear and very evident pictures of the paranormal. So much so these pictures are locked away by the holder. I have a very open mind but will never forget what I saw, I am not trying to convert anyone nor sway opinion, however I cannot dismiss what I saw and hold an even more open mind to the paranormal due to this event.

 

There was only the photographer present while the pictures were taken and what resulted can only be described beyond belief, I saw they saw and I believe this event was real unexplained paranormal activity right here in Shetland.

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After the rippin I got... I think she should keep it under her hat! :wink:

 

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You can't really expect to post those pics in a non-ghost related forum and not come up against alot of people trying to disprove the pictures.

 

She shouldn't have kept the story under her hat. But she should have at least posted something to back up her story, which you actually did. It would be like me saying I punched Jeremy Clarkson in the face...as cool as that would be, no one is going to believe me if I don't have some kind of proof.

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