Climate Change & Global Warming

[Windwalker]

If they stopped paying child credit after the 2nd child, that would not only reduce the population but save tax payers money

[Ghostrider]

If dealers were encouraged to cut a liberal dose of contraceptives in to the junk they sell, you'd see the birth rate plummet.

Edited October 18, 2019 by Ghostrider

[Ghostrider]

This thread was started on Dec 2nd 2006, almost thirteen years ago.

 

One of the poll options is 'If we don't stop it, the Planet dies in a few years, it's as simple as that'.

 

Can we have a ballpark figure of how many that 'few' is........Seeing as nothing died yet.

[Muckle Oxters]

Seeing as nothing died yet.

 

I beg tae differ!

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/16/scientists-decry-ignorance-rolling-back-species-protections-midst-mass-extinction/

 

Dirs a graph in yunder dat shows da exponential rate o extinctions - it tells its ain story

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/UStTyM6PqSEDovrsz7hmOdtt_d4=/1440x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/RUSL4UXHENCDZOZLGGFIJYGI3M.png

Edited October 19, 2019 by Muckle Oxters

[Muckle Oxters]

 the point that someone is at least trying to do something.

 

Yis indeed. One o da most disheartening things aboot aa dis Climate Rebellion is folk (and da right leaning media) ignoring da message and da scientific consensus because dey tink it's 'da wrang kind o protester' - da "why should I listen tae somebody dat's too young, too middle class, too white, too whitiver?" kind o attitude.

 

Weel, you dunna hae tae listen tae dem. Do yur ain research and you'll liklee come tae da same uncomfortable conclusion as dem onywye.

[Colin]

The problem is that, if a "protest" is NOT in your face, then it is easy to ignore it and "sweep it under the carpet".

 

The truth is that the so called "3rd world" countries CANNOT be allowed to increase their consumption of non-renewables without first reducing their birthrate and population.  Instead it is US in the so called "developed" countries who have to curtail and dramatically reduce our reckless consumption of EVERYTHING whilst also reducing our own populations..

 

The time is coming when we will be fighting for a handfull of rice and the air that we breathe.

[Windwalker]

I fully accept that climate change is an issue which will take some inventive thinking, and as I get older I’m more conscious of my carbon footprint, doing what I can to reduce it.

 

But come on, if anyone thinks the shambles of a protest, with their climbing on electric trains, disrupting everyday commuters and dancing around looking like half stoned hippies has helped their cause, they are as off their heads as a lot of those protesters appeared.

 

This type of protesting does little to bring people on board and has more than likely put more people off.

[Muckle Oxters]

Yis, dey’ve completely pittin me aff. I dunna lik hippies, dancing and inconvenience dat much dat I’m awaa tae laeve me car idling and slag aff Greta Whitshername on Twitter. Dat’ll fix da stoned soap dodgers

[Roachmill]

Disrupting public transport was a bit of a major brain fart it has to be said. Doesn't mean everything else they say or do is immediately tossed out the window.

 

It's also curious how the word hippy gets used in a derogatory form. Where would we be without the hippy movement? It did a lot of good along the way.

[Windwalker]

Muckle Oxters, that might be the stance you wish to take but, it’s important to recognise the difference between disagreeing with their tactics and acknowledging the message they made such a hash of getting across.

 

I would have no doubt that their tactics likely caused more carbon in the atmosphere. 

Edited October 19, 2019 by Windwalker

[Muckle Oxters]

According to da interview I heard we one o da organisers, public transport disruption isna part o da plan and da eens dat did it dunna hae da support o da vast majority o da protesters.

[Windwalker]

And another stated that it was the only way to get their point across 

[Muckle Oxters]

the message they made such a hash of getting across.

 

I don’t know aboot dat. I tink dey’re being brawly successful in dir objectives. Personally, I’m no liklee tae go on a protest wee dem but I support dir aims. I got speaking wee some o dem when I got inveigled trying to get though Edinburgh earlier dis year and dey wir a convivial bunch (and dey wir lettin trams and bused through). Da vast majority o dem wir joost ‘normal’ folk dat are concerned aboot da environment, and hats aff tae dem fur excercisin dir right fur peaceful protest. Disappointingly, I didna see wan dancing hippy among dem or I mighta had a peerie shiggle we dem

[Windwalker]

I would think the majority of folk switched off after watching news reports about the antics of some of the protesters. We will have to disagree about them getting their point across, as I think they failed drastically.

 

Im all for anyone exercising their right to peaceful protest, but this was nothing but. They broke the law by climbing on top of trains and disrupted “normal folk” from getting to work, hospital appointments etc.

 

Im sure there are lots of normal folk amongst them with good intentions, but to say they were brawley successful in their objectives can only suggest their objectives were to disrupt people using one of the most environmentally friendly forms of transport. I’m yet to meet anyone, with the accept ion if yourself who thinks they did a good job.

[Muckle Oxters]

I see dy focus is da handful o folk dat clam on da train. I didna say I support dat (and I dunno, and neither do the majority of da idder protesters according to a poll o dir members) but I do support da wider aims o dir international peaceful protest movement.