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How important is Global Warming to you in the Grand Scheme of Things?  

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  1. 1. How important is Global Warming to you in the Grand Scheme of Things?

    • Give me a break, I've enough on my plate
      17
    • I suppose there's something in it, but it's for the Politicians/Corporations/Those in power to sort out
      4
    • Yes I think it is important and I try to do my bit.
      79
    • If we don't stop it, the Planet dies in a few years, it's as simple as that.
      34
    • I think it is all hype and not half as bad as they make out
      108
    • I don't know what to think
      17

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"I guess some people never grow up".

 

Good to see you're not trying to sneak in a few pofanities whilst 'outwhitting' the swear filter! :wink:

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Arabia Terra's favourite critic talking some common sense.

 

http://www.ukip.org/content/video-zone/1641-monckton-testifies-before-us-congress

 

I love how the page describes him as a 'world leading climate change expert' when he has no scientific training or experience whatsoever. I'm not really sure how claiming that global warming is a communist conspiracy makes you an expert. Or whether publishing books on sudoku gives you much insight into the climate.

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I love how the page describes him as a 'world leading climate change expert' when he has no scientific training or experience whatsoever.

 

Expert:

- "Having, involving, or demonstrating great skill, dexterity, or knowledge as the result of experience or training."

 

It's a bit of a misnomer to call anyone a climate change expert, since no one alive has any experience whatsoever, on any past climate change and neither do they receive any of their scientific training from anyone who has experience of any past climate change.

The one thing we know for sure, is that any information we can gain on any previous climate change, would clearly show that it was not man made.

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It's a bit of a misnomer to call anyone a climate change expert, since no one alive has any experience whatsoever, on any past climate change and neither do they receive any of their scientific training from anyone who has experience of any past climate change.

No one alive has any experience of the Battle of Hastings, or has received any training from anyone who has had experience of the Battle of Hastings. Does this mean it is impossible to be an expert on the Battle of Hastings?

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No one alive has any experience of the Battle of Hastings, or has received any training from anyone who has had experience of the Battle of Hastings. Does this mean it is impossible to be an expert on the Battle of Hastings?

 

Yes.

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Does this mean it is impossible to be an expert on the Battle of Hastings?

 

People were there in 1066 and kept written records of the battle so any expertise would be gained from the study of the historical record of the event.

 

Your Comparison is akin to saying; Carol Vorderman is an expert with numbers, in the same way Yvette Fielding is an expert on ghosts.

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It's a bit of a misnomer to call anyone a climate change expert, since no one alive has any experience whatsoever, on any past climate change

 

I would have thought a climatologist by definition was an expert in what the climate is doing, whether that was changing or not changing.

 

This argument of yours only works if you regard climatology as false as your regard climate change, or a climatologist is somehow unable to detect change in general.

 

When a scientist observes something new for the first time it doesn't make him less of an expert, rather the opposite is true as the amount of his observational data has increased.

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The one thing we know for sure, is that any information we can gain on any previous climate change, would clearly show that it was not man made.

 

This doesn't prove anything either, I've seen holes in the ground created over millenia through natural processes and holes in the ground created by the county almost as quickly.

 

b'dum tish.

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I would have thought a climatologist by definition was an expert in what the climate is doing, whether that was changing or not changing.

 

Climatology is the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time,

Climate research is made difficult by the large scale, long time periods, and complex processes which govern climate. Climate is governed by physical laws which can be expressed as differential equations. These equations are coupled and nonlinear, so that approximate solutions are obtained by using numerical methods to create global climate models. Climate is sometimes modeled as a stochastic process but this is generally accepted as an approximation to processes that are otherwise too complicated to analyze.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatology

 

It is hardly an exact science yet.

A cat owner may be called an expert on their cat but if it bursts into flames one day, that doesn't mean that they automatically know why.

 

When a scientist observes something new for the first time it doesn't make him less of an expert, rather the opposite is true as the amount of his observational data has increased.

 

Yes and no; it doesn't make them less of an expert but if they choose only one perspective to view the anomaly and it is incorrect, then all you get is a lot of wasted time and money.

 

let me remind you that information is not knowledge, knowledge is not wisdom, and wisdom is not foresight. Each grows out of the other, and we need them all.

 

It's not what you've got, it's where you stick it, that counts.

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The one thing we know for sure, is that any information we can gain on any previous climate change, would clearly show that it was not man made.

Nice straw man there, Koy. And now you'll be telling us that because forest fires can be caused by lightning, it's impossible for one to be started by arson?

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