islandhopper Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 ... and to send out Season Greetings ...and therefore I say:Merry Christmas to my christian brethren ...a peaceful Dhu al-Qi'dah to my muslim friends ...anda quiet and peacefull Hannukah to my jewish friends ... Wolfgang /islandhopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marjolein Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Why on earth can't people say Merry Christmas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutopian Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I think its to do with Christmas being a Christian celebration and therefore deemed to be offensive and policially incorrect to non-christians. oh, and Merry Christmas folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 All my cards went out with Seasons Greetings on them this year. No-one has an excuse to be offended that way. I think that is what it boils down to in the end, finding an excuse to be offended. It is a natural human action to exclude people. If you doubt that just look at how we exclude people because of the type of house they live in, the fact that they are not a member of the lodge, the golf club, the church, the Up Helly Aa squad, our land of birth, our sexuality, our colour, race, creed, whether we drink, the type of car we drive, who we associate with etc. etc. etc. Gradually things are changing and only the individual can decide if it is for the better. Look at gay marriage for instance. Within the realms of the church in the UK only the dogmatic elements of the church are against it. For those wishing to be in same sex relationships things have moved a huge distance. As we see discrimination against others being whittled away we start to get more sensitive about how we see our feelings being "trampled" when someone sends us a card that does not fit in with our religious view. "They are showing the gays respect so why can't I have some too", I can almost hear them say. I fear that it is getting out of hand. A colleague recently asked me if I was christened with the name that I use or the longer version. I pointed out to him that I wasn't christened. I felt very sad when he felt that he needed to apologise for suggesting that I had been christened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 We live in an age where if anyone claims offense at anything then the rule book is changed to 'protect' said offended person, regardless whether or not their claim of being offended is really valid or not. We all know that at the moment it's bordering on the ridiculous. The problem is the otherwise pretty excellent theory of democracy. The natural human instinct is to protect the vulnerable. So when a victim claims they are vulnerable the democratic way is to try and protect them. But unfortunately it's this same democratic wisdom that leads the majority in society in wanting to hang every criminal. By this I mean democracy does not always come to the best solution - merely a compromise. What we really need is a genuinely intelligent set of governors that can make informed decisions on behalf of society. There now exist people who are aware enough of how society works and know that if they push the right button then they can get a desired effect. Society needs to be more streetwise and less in thrawl to these people who so readily claim to be victims for their own peculiar gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Unemployment is a very good example. As an unemployed person I am unable to receive training until I have been out of work for 6 months. Some of us don't want to be out of work, let alone out of work for 6 months. As a disabled person I am entitled to receive training straight away. What category do you imagine that I advise the employment advisor I fit into? Quotas of the number of ethnic minorities that are employed by certain organisations have to be monitored. This has been the case for years. It is now becoming true of sexual orientation. Being a minority, gay men are likely to be discriminated against when it comes to job applications. So that organisations are not seen to be discriminating it will obviously be the case that they are seen as "gay friendly" and ensure that they employ whatever the quota is that reflects society. It therefore does not take a genius to work out how I fill in the sexual orientation part of any job application. I think that it is appalling that I have to do this, but discrimination is still discrimination whether or not it is preceeded by the word positive. I intend to get a fair deal and will circumvent the measures that are put in place to discriminate against me. This has wandered off the subject of Xmas cards, for which I apologise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabiaTerra Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 As an aetheist in a 'christian' country I have to say 'Thank God for liberal democracy' 'I can say what I think with no fear of the secret police knocking on the door' It's a freedom we treat all too lightly. God bless and good cheer to all on this festive period. Long live freedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-isle Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 This year you’ve travelled over five hundred thousand million miles around the Sun, and in excess of two and a half thousand million morearound the axis of the Earth .... To claim your FREE SPACE MILES1) Fill in the form overleaf2) Forward prior to Hogmanay to any god you subscribe to ... merry happy .... e-i[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Found on the web: - Seasons Greetings “Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make The world great. Not to imply that our world is necessarily greater than any other world nor the only world in the Milky Way or indeed any other galaxy. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the ‘wishee’. By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms as stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself/himself/others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.†Ah, that's better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyVocoustic Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 http://a674.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/l_6291f5c1206cfae61c6c136b610b9e71.jpg "10,000 Turkeys" Great song!http://www.myspace.com/christtuk if people get offended (not by this pic but by anything related to xmas!) they can go pootle themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 He must be in a squad with a beard lik yun 8O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 don't you think that photo of OSB is quite like the depictions of JC himself. Maybe Bush and Blair are the new Judas and Pilate?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marjolein Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 I'll say 'Merry Christmas' to whoever I want, they can take it in good will or they can just ignore it. I don't mean it in any other way than a happy greeting for this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 I prefer the "Pah Humbug" version.. i am sure it must be pretty universal and understood by all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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