KOYAANISQATSI Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Maybe once they've bled the fund dry she'll reappear, taking the family to celebrity status once more and who knows if their not rumbled; Fern and Phil, Richard and Judy will be falling over themselves to keep them on telly, who knows she could have a single out by the summer. I'm not saying like, just sayin what if, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineer21 Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Not being a Parent myself i prob shouldnt comment but i think that a lot of ppl make mistakes and for all we know the parents of Mady may well have spent 24/7 with there kids all holiday and the one time they have a meal something bad happens as is always the way.in my opinoin its the same as a child being left in the front room while mum goes and puts the washing out the back door can someone not wander in a steal the child?? this girl was 4 yrs old and must have woken up when being plcked from her bed and i would say she would have cried screamed! but no one heard this just as possible it could happen anywhere! and mabye im out of place too say this but all these ppl saying they never leave there kids alone i just dnt think i can belive that for 12yrs of ur life u can always see your child!! and that should be 18yrs but we all know what kids are like. do u always meet them off the school bus, wait till the bus arrives and watch them get on?? i just cant see it!! Your just lucky! im not by any means saying they were rite too leave 3 of them in a room unattended but we all make mistakes and most of us get away with it i would imagine but they didnt unfortuantly! And too be quite honest whats punishing the parents really gonna achive?? apart from ruining another 2 lives I hope this wee girl is found and soon!! its a pretty harsh dusturbing world we live in nowadays and things like this do make u think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 As a ltd. company it can register for VAT and claim back any VAT incurred. They will also be able to offsett all wages and expenses against profits. It would seem that family members are now on the payroll! Anyone can register for VAT but they have to be selling goods or services, which I don't think applies in this case. The Times online article also states "tax will have to be paid on all interest accrued by the fund". You cannot deduct expenses from tax on interest. The mother goes back at 10pm to 'Check' (how late were they planning on being out?) and upon finding her daughter missing goes back to the restaurant (LEAVING the 2 babies alone in the apartment!!!) and says "they have taken her" Why not phone her husband on his mobile and then instantly call the police instead of waiting 2 hours. Not everyone would act totally rationally when their child has disappeared. I see the backlash has started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleepsie Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Not everyone would act totally rationally when their child has disappeared. I see the backlash has started. What would be rational would be to start yelling and running around searching for her, calling her name and rousing neighbouring appartments and worrying she might have fallen in the pool. Going back to the restaurant and announcing 'they have taken her ' would not have been the first action of any panic stricken mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Why all this talk of money? Surely, the police are funded already. What else is required? I'm not sure money will make any odds, but the Police and other emergency services in Portugal need all the help they can get, unless they have somehow managed to improve their competency, efficency and professionalism manyfold in the last few years. They were beyond a joke before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleepsie Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Its all very well playing the Devils Advocat on forums, but we all would like to see a happy outcome to this very sad event. Much as I feel anger towards the parents for their neglect of their child I also feel very sorry for them - no one ever expects tragedy to land at their door, and no one knows how they would cope in such tragic circumstances - and I hope to never be put to the test. I don't intend to post anymore on this thread untill something positive happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Going back to the restaurant and announcing 'they have taken her ' would not have been the first action of any panic stricken mother. I think you're being overly critical on this point....It is not unheard of for a parent upon discovering something tragic has happened to a child to simply go in to a form of shock, in which they simply move mechanically with a fixed stare, and frequently only utter the most inappropriate and/or mudane of phrases concerning events. Some would argue that in going back to the restaurant she was, while probably suffering from shock, sub-consciously trying to "Rewind", to go back to the last moments of normality, in a forlorn attempt to move forward again with a better outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaadrink Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 When my son was 3 I discovered him missing from the garden, it was around nine in the morning. I was in my bare feet, I took to my heels and fled the shortest way to the main road where I found him pelting along down the side road and would not have been unable to stop as it was down hill. He would have been hit by traffic going at 60 mph. Only when I had him did I realise I had my bare feet. I was in great shock and didn’t go and tell my husband he was missing I took action at once and undoubtedly saved his life. Maddies mother did not at that time know her daughter had been taken she only knew she was missing, so why didn’t she do the most natural thing and run to the most dangerous place first. Just to say a workman we had in the previous day had not shut the back gate properly when he left. That’s how my son got out, my husband dealt with the workman. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleepsie Posted May 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 It is not unheard of for a parent upon discovering something tragic has happened to a child to simply go in to a form of shock The child wasnt in the appartment - she couldn't have know that 'something tragic' had happened, looking for her daughter would have been the first thing to do - just like Smaadrink did. (it seems I am going to post on this thread after all!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 I am completely happy with the idea of going back to the restaurant to tell family and friends before calling the cops. Depending on location of phones and her knowledge of Portuguese that might even have been the quickest way to get help. What I think is strange is the reported statement "they have taken her". To me it implies that the "they" are known to the parents. Even in a crisis I kind of think that words like "Maddies gone", "I cant find her" or even "someones taken her" would be reasonable but "they" makes me want to ask who?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooks Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 That was exactly what I thought when I read that statement. Unless she was referring to the locals as 'they'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittybee Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 a mother and a father have lost a child.. be it temporary or permanent. the way the mother reacted was unique to her, and she was in shock (which does strange things) who are we to judge or cast assumptions on maddies mothers actions?......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 maddies mothers actions reported actions. I wasn't there to witness what she actually said but it wouldn't surprise me if she'd said something entirely different at the time. I agree, kittybee, it's unfair to expect this woman to have been acting at her most rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittybee Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 i myself had a 2 year old who was a very good escape artist... and sometimes... the things i said when searching for him were not rational at all! ....fortunately he is now a 9 year old with less desire to escape....... at the moment ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 It is not unheard of for a parent upon discovering something tragic has happened to a child to simply go in to a form of shock The child wasnt in the appartment - she couldn't have know that 'something tragic' had happened, looking for her daughter would have been the first thing to do - just like Smaadrink did. (it seems I am going to post on this thread after all!!) Looking for her would have been one of the logical and sane things she could have done. However, in the initial shock of such a discovery, as she was, simply starting to scream hysterically, or stumbling around blindly mumbling incoherently, or retracing her steps to her most recent "safe zone" and uttering something not enitrely appropriate, as she allegedly did, are just three from a very long list of what cannot be considered unreasonable reactions in the overall circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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