vailron Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 why are they not jumping on front of german , dutch, and spanish trawlers then???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandhopper Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 They did, vailron, at least in front of those German and Norwegian trawlers which did not answer and/or stop when radio contacted. But it looks like that they have chosen Scottish and Shetland waters in particular for their action ... may be the Fetlar teacher was told a bit about the whys when visiting the campain boat earlier in May ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriebryan Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 As well as harassing the cod fishermen, they're not too keen on the cod farmers either - www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/oceans/north_sea They make some good points though Free the cod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 I just recently read a book " journey into the bomb " and it was writtren by a green peace activist back in the70,s who with his own 30 + foot yacht sailed from New zealand into the blast zone of a french atomic test. This was when they were still conducting air tests rather than underground. There mission on that occassion filled me with admiration for the people on that yacht & there organization and I think it's a good thing that it is a strong thriving organisation to this day. However they simply dont have all the facts right on the situation with North Sea Cod and there stunts they have been carrying out are ridiculous and dangerous. If they had there facts right they should have gone straight to Brussels and hammered on the door of the E.U. Parliment as it was there management regime that led to the catching and dumping (over a 20 year period), back into the sea dead , of hundreds of thousands of tons of quality fish that could have fed millions of people and would have reduced fishing pressure on the north sea. But the real issue is global warming , the cod are migrating northwards of there own accord (massive shoals now being found northern coast of Norway) whilst other species usually found in warmer waters are turning up in increasing numbers. During this flawed action they have been carrying out they have probably burned more than 100 tons of diesel as a ship of that size probably burns between 4 & 8 ton of fuel per day. And finnally people need to eat and fish is a very healthy source of food . They should drop this trying to stop fishing altogether business and try and promote fishing methods that are more enviromentally friendly such as long lining , seine net and demersal gillnetting . All these methods listed here can be done far more economically as they burn a fraction of the fuel than trawling. They have seriously damaged there credibility during this and i hope they take a long hard think about the far greater crimes against nature that they should be addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 I hear on S.I.B.C this morning that there was an incident overnight in which some persons tried to cut the Green peace boat's mooring ropes , well i dont agree with that kind of stunt either , but they should be getting the message now that they have done there reputation no good. Some body should also tell them to check out the response to there actions here on shetlink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 What if,, Greenpeace scuttled all their boats in the middle of the Cod spawning grounds to prevent trawling there???That would surely be a great headline grabbing stunt for them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoogler Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Come on Shetland folk - get down to the pier and protest against Greenpeace. I know it gives them more publicity but it is about time Shetland got the message directly to these numpties that they are way out of line with any sense of reality. A bit of non violent direct action from ordinary Shetland folk in defence of our means of making a living would be a good thing in the face of these idiots. All it needs is a few banners, a box or two of eggs and a hunder weight of flour - any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khitajrah Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 (sorry, I've not been following this thread but I'd just like to say every time I read "Greenpeace Carry On!" i inwardly giggle and think that it is an encouraging statement!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachcaster Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 One of our core principles is that our campaigning is non-violent, which means we don't put anyone, other people or our own, in jeopardy. If this statement is true, why were 8 Greenpeace activists ejected from Posers last Saturday night for starting a punch up with some Shetland lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 (sorry, I've not been following this thread but I'd just like to say every time I read "Greenpeace Carry On!" i inwardly giggle and think that it is an encouraging statement!) I keep think it a new carry on film being released soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 ^^^ Even with the best "Carry On" script ever, they'd never quite manage to equal the stupidty and idiocy of the reality.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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islandhopper Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Today I got an answer to my letter sent some weeks ago now to greenpeace.de stating the following things: i) There was nothing at the posers with campaigners or crew of the Arctic Sunrise as stated by beachcaster earlier in this thread. ii) There was only the accident at the Victoria Pier which obliged the crew to call the police for assistance. iii) There was at no time any risk neither for an untrained campaigner nor any crew of any fishing boat tackled. Everything was completely under controle of the highly experienced campaigners. iv) There are absolutely no image losses neither internationally or locally. v) Of course they paid their tribute to the victims of the Dolphin. Carrying out such a peacefull action to preserve the natural ressources for future generations on which these might be depending on is not like disrespecting those who lost their lives. For this the original German text, which might be translated by someone more experienced:Selbstverständlich begegnet Greenpeace auch den Toten der "Bourbon Dolphin" mit Respekt. Eine friedliche Aktion, die zudem unter anderem aus Sorge um die Lebensgrundlagen zukünftiger Generationen durchgeführt wird, stellt in unseren Augen keine Respektlosigkeit dar. It was a polite letter showing that they did some research on local perception of the campain (they quoted the Shetland Marine News). Nevertheless, I copied some of the opinions published earlier in this thread ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trout Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Spot on islandhopper! The international angle you bring to discussions here are an eye-opener, and certainly in the case of Greenpeace being an "international" organisation - good scoop my friend! Can anyone corroborate "beachcaster's" assertion of: One of our core principles is that our campaigning is non-violent, which means we don't put anyone, other people or our own, in jeopardy. If this statement is true, why were 8 Greenpeace activists ejected from Posers last Saturday night for starting a punch up with some Shetland lads. ? Local knowledge against media front! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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