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Whilst I think it is a good idea re electric cars, I can't help but wonder if the manufacturers have addressed the issue of the amount of time you can drive between recharging when running with headlights on. I think it was Top Gear who tested an electric car and really struggled with the night driving due to this.

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There was a program about the moon on TeeVee the other night. A statement from that program suggested that solar panels can be erected on the moon and the power sent down via microwaves. Something we already have the skill to do, the money was the sticking point. They also quoted that it would cost the same as the oil industry spends in two years.

But no doubt they would want to strip the moon of anything valuable to fund the faceless greed.

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Does anybody actually think electric vehicles will be viable until we stop burning coal and oil?

 

The more electricity used, the more the price of power will go up...

 

I would get one damorn, as it would suit me fine. Most of my driving is the odd run tae da toon and back, so I could just charge it again for the next run and it wid safe me a fortune in petrol costs.

 

The problem is I could not afford tae buy a new car, never mind an electric wan, which is priced out of most folks budgets.

 

A lot o elderly folk who live outside da toon, just do the odd run tae da shops and an electric car wid be great fir dem, but I wid think that most widdna aford the high price of wan.

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Tink dir micht be a bit o misconception aboot charging da batteries on these cars. For example on da Nissan Leaf ( above ) this is whit is required quote :- It can be charged in 8 hours from a 220/240-volt 30 amp supply (5.2 kilowatts (7.0 hp) allowable draw[58]

So a bit lik pluggin intae de electric shower for 8hrs, not so great at current electricity prices !

More on da Nissan Leaf here :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf#Recharging

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5p/litre off at Tesco

 

Spend £50 online or instore at Tesco and you'll get a voucher entitling you to 5p/litre of fuel at Tesco petrol stations.

 

The voucher is valid for two weeks from when it's issued at any Tesco petrol station, except pay at the pump stations.

 

Spends on stamps, baby food and mobile top-ups won't count towards your £50.

 

If only ..... :x

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Tink dir micht be a bit o misconception aboot charging da batteries on these cars. For example on da Nissan Leaf ( above ) this is whit is required quote :- It can be charged in 8 hours from a 220/240-volt 30 amp supply (5.2 kilowatts (7.0 hp) allowable draw[58]

So a bit lik pluggin intae de electric shower for 8hrs, not so great at current electricity prices !

More on da Nissan Leaf here :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf#Recharging

 

The current drawn by the charger is a max of 3.3 kw, this is too close to the mark for a 16A supply, so, a 30 or 32 A supply would be needed. The car would not draw 30 A.

 

As batteries charge, the power needed to charge them reduces, so, the cost will level out over a period, but there will be that initial surge.

 

As with all green energy projects, there is money available from other sources. And, if when at home, you use your recently installed solar array or night time electricity settings, the cost can be reduced.

 

Many folk use their car for short journeys, so, you may not need to charge it up every day.

 

If plugged into a street socket, the council buys the electricity it uses for street lighting in bulk, there is a scale for this, it could easily negotiate a better price.

 

And if you follow sensible driving guides, you could save some more.

 

The talk is that you only lease the batteries, so, you do not have to worry about the cost of replacing them, and as we progress, folk will reduce them even further.

 

It is a good thing that folk look at this mode of powering cars and vans.

 

Even when I did my apprenticeship in 1982 the company I worked for developed electric vehicles and their usage. The costs if I remember were not much different as buying new diesel Dodge 4t vans as they reused the Comma Walkthroughs instead of dumping them.

 

Electricity cam be generated in otherways rather than using coal and oil, the thing that we have to work out is to find an alternative way to produce these technologies. They have come leaps and bounds with building materials so why not anything else..

 

If you think +ve, you can achieve many things, think negativly and you could get left behind..

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I was sooth at the weekend, first petrol station I went past had fuel at 126.9p/Litre for Petrol 130.9p/Litre for Diesel. When I exclaimed to the cab driver how cheap the fuel was, she asked what price we pay and where we were from, after I explained we were from shetland and I got as far as "146/Litre for Diesel" she almost swore in disbelief at the cost.

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