Fjool Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Bars in Minnesota have found a dramatic way to get around the US state's recently introduced smoking ban. The law grants an exception from the ban to performers in theatrical productions. So the bars have become theatres, and their customers, actors. Now some bars print bills listing the "cast" of bartenders, and ashtrays become "props". Drinkers don costumes and attempt strange accents. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7285808.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 ^^^ All this proves is that an addict will go to any lengths to get there fix. what ever the fix is TobaccoAlcoholDrugsFood The only differance between the first 3 and the last are that with the first 3 (apart from the miss use of them all) they will kill you. The last you can't live with out it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudias Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 ^ ^ ^ All four,taken in moderation,will NOT kill you,but,the misuse of any of the four surely will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnSaxon Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Re. Para's point about food, I remember reading many years ago (in the 1970s, I think) about one of Russia's more eccentric scientists. He had formulated a theory that eating food was just a social convention, and not actually necessary to human survival at all: accordingly, he stopped eating in order to test his theory. Not too surprisingly, we heard, some months later, that he had died of starvation. I guess that on the plus side you have to admire him for sticking to his principles no matter what. But he rather proves that we humans can be pretty damn weird without any drugs at all ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyfootballer Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Anybody watching "should I smoke dope" on BBC 3 ? Another example of how crazy the drug laws are in this country. Sometimes you think these laws must have been created by dealers to perpetuate the trade and make it more profitable. Another example of the craziness is the two year jail sentence for the guy in Ollaberry growing 40 plants. The way this is dealt with judicially is as though this is extreme organised crime. 40 plants is sod all and is not much more than a hobby. If I could be bothered I'd search through the internet to find all the other crimes that warrant a two year sentence to compare. I already know what would come up though. 40 plants of home grow probably in the same league as serious GBH/sexual assault and a myriad of nasty offences. How ridiculous. So little difference to alcohol or tobacco yet the punishment is disproportionately absurd! Just another nail in the coffin for the credibility of drug laws. When will some parts of society stop trying to tell other parts of society what they can do with their own bodies ? Until they do nothing will ever change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherWilliamThomson Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Drug use is a medical problem, whether it be a physical or mental one. Making drug use a crime is utter nonsense, AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE PROHIBITION IS THE MAJOR CAUSE OF THE 'DRUG' PROBLEM, BOTH ILLEGAL AND LEGAL, THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THE WORLD TODAY. MAKE DRUGS LEGAL - CRIMINALS HAVE NO MAJOR FUNDING. MAKE DRUGS LEGAL - TERRORISTS HAVE NO MAJOR FUNDING. MAKE DRUGS LEGAL - MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE NOT EXACERBATED BY THE GUILT OF CRIME. MAKE DRUGS LEGAL - DARWINISM CAN WORK ITS SWEET MAGIC AND WE CAN REALLY FIND OUT WHAT IS BAD FOR YOU AND WHAT IS NOT. MAKE DRUGS LEGAL - TAX REVENUES WILL INCREASE AND ALLOW US TO INVEST IN BETTER TREATMENT, BETTER EDUCATION, AND IF IT IS NOT ABOUT TIME, A BETTER FUTURE. If heroin was legal to buy, would you? If Cannabis was legal and socially acceptable, would it still cause paranoia? If all drugs were legal, would more people smoke and drink? Or would most people find the drug that suits them best, and helps them have a better existence, and leave it at that? Why don't we do an experiment. Make tea illegal. Study the effects of prohibition on a substance which has lots of positive benefits (and nothing beats a good cup of tea) but also has some less considered negative effects, as it contains caffeine - a drug associated with many health problems. Until people can be allowed to be responsible, through a legal framework, the junkies will run amok. I hope I am clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 "Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing" "Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men." "If the hideous monster Frankenstein came face to face with the monster of marijuana he would drop dead of fright." Harry J. Anslinger The man who made pot illegal http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php "Persons using this narcotic [marijuana] smoke the dried leaves of the plant, which has the effect of driving them completely insane. The addict loses all sense of moral responsibility. Addicts to this drug, while under its influence, are immune to pain, and could be injured without having any realization of their condition. While in this condition they become raving maniacs and are liable to kill or indulge in any form of violence to other persons, using the most savage methods of cruelty without, as said before, any sense of moral responsibility. . . . If this drug is indulged in to any great extent, it ends in the untimely death of its addict." Emily Murphy Edmonton Canada, 1923 campaigner for cannabis prohibition in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abraxas Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 "Ugg!" - Neanderthal spokesperson on drug prohibition Fer the love o the wee man, we've entered a time rift an ended up back in the '30's now! Oh. No. Sorry. That's just the effervescent Mr K. That's it, fellah, brand all anti-drugs fowk as hillbilly redneck racist zombie eejits that don't know what they're talkin' about. That will win yer debate fer ye. Sheesh. ("Facetious? Moi?" - Nicky Henson ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 all anti-drugs fowk as hillbilly redneck racist zombie eejits that don't know what they're talkin' about. Hi sweetcheeks, sorry didn't notice you there.Yes like you say some folk will have to learn from the past or be doomed to repeat it (dragging society down with them) The problem is demand, but it is not only demand, it is demand that must operate through repressed and illegal channels. Illegality creates obscene profits that finance the murderous tactics of the drug lords; illegality leads to the corruption of law enforcement officials; illegality monopolizes the efforts of honest law forces so that they are starved for resources to fight the simpler crimes of robbery, theft and assault. Drugs are a tragedy for addicts. But criminalizing their use converts that tragedy into a disaster for society, for users and non-users alike. Our experience with the prohibition of drugs is a replay of our experience with the prohibition of alcoholic beverages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pernjim Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 In a hurry, so haven't been able to read all the recent posts; however - can I just say: A former drugs enforcement officer pointed out in court last week that because hash is harder to smuggle into Shetland nowadays (due to the threat of PC Pooch), there's more heroin coming in. And that the price of heroin is higher here because... well, there's nothing else to buy, and no-one else to get it from. Its simple supply and demand. Folk are going to mess with their minds, no matter what you do. I'm sure the drug dogs seemed like a good idea at the time - but the number of folk who're bug*ered on heroin is going up because there's lots of it here now - and there's no softer option available. Which would you prefer, junkies or heads? Or perhaps you'd just like to stick with the good old traditional alcoholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medziotojas Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Alcohol is a drug. Nicotine is a drug. Why is there a distinguishment between these two and other drugs? Cannabis 'can harm foetal brain' Why single out cannabis? I would have thought it would be advisable to avoid ALL drugs during pregnancy (aside from those prescribed by a practitioner where necessary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFusion Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 The team at the University of Aberdeen also said certain prescribed drugs, including some to treat obesity, could have an effect in the womb too. mite have to include some of them from the quack too Medziotojas.... begs the question why did they pick up on the cannabis aspect when there's plenty out there that can affect the unborn child.....MF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 The 'War on Drugs' continues to be a roaring success: Drugs deaths double in last decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Short article on the Guardian site:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/13/drugspolicy.drugstrade I think what was truly depressing about my time in UKADCU was that the overwhelming majority of professionals I met, including those from the police, the health service, government and voluntary sectors held the same view: the illegality of drugs causes far more problems for society and the individual than it solves. Yet publicly, all those intelligent, knowledgeable people were forced to repeat the nonsensical mantra that the Government would be 'tough on drugs', even though they all knew that the Government's policy was actually causing harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmon Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Drugs are a blight on these wee isles, but i will say this................how many of us Shetlanders who are against the presence of drugs in our community either know or think they know DRUG DEALERS in our midst...yet the local police appear to have no idea...should we all be doing more to save our youngsters and demand that the police become more active.It doe's not wash that the police are watching the small dealers in the hope they will land a big fish later. I could clean these isles of most it's drug dealers in a matter of months......why has the drug problem gone from bad to diabolical in such a small community were we all know each other for better or for worse. If three police officers in the drug devision on £34K a year each can't eradicate drugs as a problem in Shetland.....ask ourselves why?. Shetland has the population of an average UK village,.....it's not impossible to police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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