MaxFusion Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 a wee thing on cancer I found t'other day http://current.com/items/88989091_cannabis_cancer_research_s_most_surprising_story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 a wee thing on cancer I found t'other day http://current.com/items/88989091_cannabis_cancer_research_s_most_surprising_storya little diffrent from smoking it. nobody is saying that the chemicals in cannabis cant be used for medical purposes. most of the effective drugs have an organic origan. having seen a number of my family die from cancer ive no problem with drugs used in medicine. a lot of the drugs used are extremly toxic in the treatment of cancer. so if the chemicals in cannabis can help thats fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFusion Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 true, (most of the medical drugs have come from opium....)but because of prohibition research was impossible hence why most of this research had to be done outside of the US after they started the war on drugs. the same has also been true of this country untill it was reclassified recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 im sure there are cannibis based drugs available. i think one of the diet pills has an active compond from it, lots of the origanal plants like foxglove are very deadly yet they supply one very useful heart medicine. others like willow and feverfew have come from folk medicine. the greeks new about opium and even they were nervous about its use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 State sidehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjSe_sSR8og&feature=related Still racist, stupid and though I used to think out of touch; it seems pretty damn clear that the power seekers know that there's more profit in disharmony and that a bit of the old divide and rule never did no one no harm.Did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 The 60 second versionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1cweGqMyc&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 and in response harmless mmmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPITs82wP2U&feature=related and the final proof of the horror of drugshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrt4NFkrsdI&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Myths and factshttp://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlady Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 ^^ You'll be trying to tell us that is doesn't cause paranoia next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Paranoia:The clinical use of the term has been used to describe delusions where the affected person believes he is being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements: 1 The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur, to him or her. 2 The individual thinks that the persecutor has the intention to cause harm. On point 2 the paranoia may be justified as the law and certain sections of society do indeed carry the intention to cause harm to users. If using causes anxiety, then don't use; Don't think this is a good excuse to impose your personal fears as a rule of law on others. Who would you feel more paranoid to be stuck in a lift with; two drunks or a couple of stoners.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Anyhow, I thought imposing irrational fear was standard government policy.The news doesn't do it for me anymore, you'd think they'd be happy that folk were taking something themselves that put them on edge. having a terror alert on something that may or may not be incidental in this paranoia you seem to hear so much about, still seems counter productive. The only paranoia I ever encounter on the issue seems to come direct from the minds of those who are not involved about those who are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 ^ Actually, Koy's link is the least paranoid of the lot. The debate, however, is not whether drugs can cause harm; we've established that they certainly can. There is no argument over this point; at least, not from me. The topic is whether they should be illegal or not. As has been highlighted many times, if the criteria we use to outlaw something is based entirely on potential for harm then we should be banning chip suppers, cakes, bacon, sky-diving, rally driving, helicopters and overly loud music. All drugs can cause harm but the important question is whether making them illegal reduces the harm. Plainly, the answer is "no"; making drugs illegal makes them more harmful. To use the harm caused by their illegality (e.g. "Faces of meth") as a justification for their prohibition is a ridiculous, circular argument which, ultimately, perpetuates a great social problem by smearing it with a layer of hyperbole and self-righteous ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I agree with you Fjool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 again you have just said it the do cause harm. so give us the reasons backed up with both stats and costings that support your view. your turn to prove what your saying. forget the choice bit lets have facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ertieiddabanks Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 again you have just said it the do cause harm. so give us the reasons backed up with both stats and costings that support your view. your turn to prove what your saying. forget the choice bit lets have facts. I think if you'd bothered to read this thread from the beginning you would find that many people have posted many facts and figures both for and against prohibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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