shetlandpeat Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think that any distraction is bad, but, it is wrong to use the phone while driving. Even more so when folk have a car with bluetooth yet still persist in holdin their phone. You may have to talk to the kids in the back but there is no reason on earth you need to operate a mobile phone while driving. The need was invented by those who wanted to. Unless the phone is in a holder it has to be turned OFF when the engine is running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enkelt skapninger Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 i dont beleive for a moment that talking on a mobile is any more distracting than a conversation with a person sat next to me, certainly less distracting than children in the back or a baby on board as so many are so keen to advertise. Luckily it isn't up to you to make the laws, but those with the evidence that mobile phones are dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningright Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Luckily it isn't up to you to make the laws, but those with the evidence that mobile phones are dangerous. but we are policed by consent, which would mean theoretically, if a certain percentage, and not necessarily a majority of people are breaking a law reguarly, perhaps the relevance of a law requires revisiting. tell me that a parent trying to quiet a screaming infant in the back isnt more distracting? perhaps you should get on to the "people who make laws" and discuss that distraction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 That too is against the law, you are not serious by the suggestion because someone suffocates someone we are ok to shoot another? If a yungun is needing attention, the driver should pull over. That too is the law. Your trying to justify a dangerous act by telling folk others do dangerous acts, I think your trolling. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningright Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There is plenty of evidence, from both witnesses and research that prove that driving having a conversation do not mix too well.Unless you are very special then it applies to you as well. interestingly, these special people can be pinned down?most states in the US its not an offence at all, sometimes only an offence in a city, how can that be shetlandpeat? holy jesus sometimes you could be breaking the law one minute and not the next if its your 18th birthday. this slightly undermines the evidence, its like most things its probably best not to if it can be avoided but i dont think the everyone who answers the phone whilst driving is going to plough through a group of pedestrians. in fact ive often seen people pulling over and pulled over to answer the phone being more of a hazard to other road users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningright Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think your trolling. there it is again shetlandpeat's trump card. give it a rest, being so opinionated as you are it shouldnt be a surprise when someone doesnt agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningright Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 That too is against the law, you are not serious by the suggestion because someone suffocates someone we are ok to shoot another. but murder by suffocation and murder by shooting are both illegal so a silly and irrelevant comparison, for an analogy to work there has to be some relevance.by all means try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 That is what you have just said. The majority think you are wrong. A bit like your post about using red fuel oil in a subject on how expensive diesel is, a reaction is what you are looking for. We have agreed with what you have said earlier, yet you still try to find a justification to do what you want to do regardless of the fact that we agreed with you. trump card? Where is your evidence to prove that driving and having a conversation holding a mobile phone is no dangerous than say, concentrating on driving. The murder analogy does work, turning around and balling at your passengers is against the law as is using your phone without it being in a cradle. Just because you have seen folk do the first is not a ticket for someone else to do the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglad Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Sneezing is quite dangerous when behind the wheel too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Quite a dangerous act at most times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilldellin Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I often wonder what the job description of these self proclaimed superior beings are. They either have to be self employed, unemployed or heading in that direction, possibly even turningright ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleepsie Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 turning around and balling at your passengers is against the law as is using your phone without it being in a cradle. Just because you have seen folk do the first is not a ticket for someone else to do the latter. The law does not state that your phone must be in a holder, only that you must not hold it in your hand, nor does it say that it has to be switched off unless in a holder. You are allowed to use it in your hand to make an emergency call if it is unsafe to stop. Hands free use is perfectly legal.Talking to passengers is also legal - whatever tone of voice you choose to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I often wonder what the job description of these self proclaimed superior beings are. They either have to be self employed, unemployed or heading in that direction, possibly even turningright ! Who was proclaiming they were superior, missed that post. The guy is entitled to have a different opinion to the crowd, doesn't mean you attack him and not his point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 ^^ Tis still a grey area - the Old Bill can still nick ya even if on hands-free if they deem you were driving without due care and attention just as they can if they are of that view as you smack into the nearest street lamp when whacking Meatloaf up to full volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 A update to the law was also introduced about smoking while driving. The be all and and all surly is being in full control of your vehicle at all times. Accidents generally happen when someone is not. If balling at the rear passengers distracts you enough for an Officer to report you or caution you, then it is wrong to do so. The phone has to be inaccessible. You cannot have it sitting on the passenger seat. The worry there would be the temptation, plus, if you were in an accident, the flying phone could injure someone, if not yourself and could be out of reach or damaged if you do need to call the emergency services because you may be upside down in a ditch on your own one winters night bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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