Colin Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 And what about those of us under 21 who cook with wine?! What am I supposed to put in my spag bol now? Worcester Sauce.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 The rather sad and unfortunate thing is that adults don't do enough to stop their kids drinking. My father told me when I got hammered under the age of 18 I was an idiot, he didn't condone it and he sure as hell didn't give me the drink to get drunk on. I think kids do get led by example and as long as parents let their kids go out and get absolutely blotto and do nothing to stop it the kid will think they've done sausage all wrong. I was at a wedding back home a couple of years ago and saw 5 of my cousins all well under age and all drinking alcohol with their parents consent, if you let them get hammered in front of you its a bit hypocritical to tell them not to do it when you're not around. The sad thing is when I asked one of the younger ones to lay off the rum (he was visibily drunk) his attitude was his older siblings got to do it so why shouldn't he and it's apparently cool to be 15 and drunk as a skunk.Change the attitude of the parents and in time the kids will hopefully get a bit of sense trained into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 if somebody under the age of 21 wants drink they will find some way of getting it no matter what the law says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 after many a drunken night out with MSPs, I do wonder. One such night saw one 16year old thrown out of her homeless hostel for "breaking the law" (she went home before curfew after having 3 glasses of wine with her meal at a Scottish parliament do - strangely enough it was okay for her next door neighbour to come in totally pissed because she was 18), fortunately the law as stood then was explained in great length, very slowly until they understood. Just to clarify things here guys - I may have mentioned it earlier in an other thread - At what age can you legally buy alcohol for your own consumption? (any one who's done their "think 21" should know this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 At what age can you legally buy alcohol for your own consumption? (any one who's done their "think 21" should know this one) Haven't done 'think 21' but, as far as I am aware, a person may legally buy (or have it bought for them) cider, beer or wine at the age of 16 PROVIDING it is bought as part of a meal. Do I get tonights prize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Haven't done 'think 21' but, as far as I am aware, a person may legally buy (or have it bought for them) cider, beer or wine at the age of 16 PROVIDING it is bought as part of a meal. Do I get tonights prize Why yes Colin, we've got a fantastic prize for you tonight. You'll be driving away in this lovely microwave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Why yes Colin, we've got a fantastic prize for you tonight. You'll be driving away in this lovely microwave. Gee, I hope it the wood burning model and seats at least 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassermaet Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 The rather sad and unfortunate thing is that adults don't do enough to stop their kids drinking. My father told me when I got hammered under the age of 18 I was an idiot, he didn't condone it and he sure as hell didn't give me the drink to get drunk on. I think kids do get led by example and as long as parents let their kids go out and get absolutely blotto and do nothing to stop it the kid will think they've done sausage all wrong. I was at a wedding back home a couple of years ago and saw 5 of my cousins all well under age and all drinking alcohol with their parents consent, if you let them get hammered in front of you its a bit hypocritical to tell them not to do it when you're not around. The sad thing is when I asked one of the younger ones to lay off the rum (he was visibily drunk) his attitude was his older siblings got to do it so why shouldn't he and it's apparently cool to be 15 and drunk as a skunk.Change the attitude of the parents and in time the kids will hopefully get a bit of sense trained into them. Well said, sir! *applause* Also agree with Para Handy's statement; I'm sure we've all been there and done that as teenagers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 At what age can you legally buy alcohol for your own consumption? (any one who's done their "think 21" should know this one) Haven't done 'think 21' but, as far as I am aware, a person may legally buy (or have it bought for them) cider, beer or wine at the age of 16 PROVIDING it is bought as part of a meal. Do I get tonights prize Only half right, 16 is correct, yes you can buy as part of meal (14 bought for you) but there is another way of buying alcohol at 16 (surgical spirit doesn't count - unless your fae stoney) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Only half right, 16 is correct, yes you can buy as part of meal (14 bought for you) but there is another way of buying alcohol at 16 (surgical spirit doesn't count - unless your fae stoney) There are lots of products that contain alcohol in 'legal' quantities that may (or may not) be considered fit for consumption by minors.Liquer Chocolates perhaps or is this a trick question to do with authorised test purchasing by under agers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshagger Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 does this mean that we'll have 21 year olds buying carryoots for 18 year olds. are they going to make it illegal to purchace alchohol for anyone under the age of 21. the laws have only recently been changed concerning the sale of alchohol with licencees having to sit a city and guilds in drink sales, a one day course (what happened to the 3 year apprenticeship with college) and all staff having to go on training courses to teach how to ask are you 18 and show me the proof, a complete bloody farce if you ask me. are employers now going to have to pay to put them on a further course to ask are you 21 and show me the proof.A monty python sketch has less farce in it than this bloody law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmon Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 If you are old enough to "Soulder Arms" for this country you are old enough to do anything that's legal within this countries borders. I rest my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassermaet Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Those of you with a Facebook profile might have noticed a group opposing this movement. They send me messages and updates, and apparently the majority of MSPs have opposed this rule anyway. Here's the message: It gives me great pleasure to announce that after our continued lobbying efforts Labour have today announced that they join the Conservatives, Greens and Lib Dems in opposition to raising the alcohol purchase age in off-sales from 18 to 21. In a heated debate about 'alcohol misuse' in the parliament Labour's Justice spokesperson; Pauline McNeil, announced that raising the purchase age "does not pass the test of being evidence-based" and that "we (Labour) don't think a blanket approach will work." Along with similar comments from the Conservative's Murdo Fraser MSP and the Lib Dems Ross Finnie MSP, we even got support for our cause from an SNP MSP! Christine Graham MSP said she was "not persuaded" about the case for raising the drinking age. So well done everyone - we're one step closer - now we just need to keep up the momentum, and build up the pressure so that the SNP drop these plans. Remember the Petition: http://epetitions.scottish.parliament.uk/view_signatures.asp?PetitionID=253&Offset=800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Tesco and Asda have claimed that even if the law gets passed, they'll just build Alcohol store things in England and let people buy alcohol en-masse online. It's legal under the EU trading laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeemsie1989 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I personally think it should be raised to 21. JAStewart's first comment was that smoking and thinking are just as dangerous. Well, radical, youthful and rebellious politics aside, I agree, but many of the worst assaults and crimes happen under the influence of alcohol. I don't get a nicotine rush and then get the notion to punch someone cause I think that theylook at me funny. I think marriage should be 21, along with drinking. And smoking and driving 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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