Jeemsie1989 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Social lubrication?? What on earth?! What does that mean? I assume it means to let conversations move more smoothly and freely. Why not just say what you think anyway. i do apologise if I seem like I'm dicatating my own life principles here but I do find it very difficult to understand the mindsets of people who don't just speak their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Inky Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 There are no good points to alcohol consumption. Okay, so it gets you drunk? So what! Why is that so good?Because it's a jolly good laugh, that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 It's so idiotic that at 16 you can legally be responsible enough to have a baby but you can't be responsible enough to vote/drink/buy cigarettes or watch certain movies .Strangely enough there is no actual law about what age you can have a baby, it's kind of a biological thing, it's more a law about what age a female can legally consent to taking part in the activities necessary to make one. Nasty rightwing comments about you'd have to be pretty "irresponsible" to have a baby at 16 spring to mind... but as the under 20s seem to be the only ones having kids without the aid of thousands of pounds of tax payers money...Only known one <16 not to keep her baby but she was 13, seem to remember a couple of obscure bits of scottish legislation about 14 being the age when you could legally be responsable for others and 15(if female) for setting up your own household. sorry being a pedant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlady Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 ^^ Ok I'll rephrase that ... to the age of 16 being the legal age to make a baby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Social lubrication?? What on earth?! What does that mean? I assume it means to let conversations move more smoothly and freely. Why not just say what you think anyway. i do apologise if I seem like I'm dicatating my own life principles here but I do find it very difficult to understand the mindsets of people who don't just speak their minds. I was merely trying to point out that many people enjoy alcohol without feeling the need to get out of their heads or to help them engage with someone they fancy. You may not feel this need and I respect your views. i apologise if I did not make myself clear but I merely wished to air an opposite view, with the intention of moving this thread forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medziotojas Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Alcohol plans to suffer 'defeat' Scottish Government plans to raise the age limit for buying alcohol in shops from 18 to 21 are set to be defeated. Opposition parties have been urged to back a Tory motion at parliament, urging MSPs to reject the proposals. Students will also stage a rally outside parliament, claiming the plans would demonise young people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 If the young'uns can't drink until they are 21... we should take the average of death in this country, take 21 from it, and make it so that you can't drive from then on. 79 it is. so 58 is the last year you can drive. Y'know, might as well discriminate older folks while we're discriminating the younger ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Good stuff! Didn't realise they were about to reject this foolish plan! How they can justify it is beyond me! A girl or guy of 18 can be married, have children, vote, fight for their country, drive, go to the pub of a weekend, but then they cannot buy a bottle of wine from the shop? Absoloute rubbish! I realise that the kind of person mentioned above is not the target, but they would suffer as a result! When is it that you are regarded as an adult nowadays?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFusion Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 if I remember rite you're officially a "youth" until 25.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 see, that doesn't make any sense to me at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well, see, partly I think some of the problem we have with drinking in this country is the association between alcohol and being an 'adult'. Children are taught right from an early age that it is a 'grown up' thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFusion Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 ^^maybe not but.."Youth... those persons falling between the ages of 18 and 24 years inclusive." - United Nations General Assembly[5]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well, see, partly I think some of the problem we have with drinking in this country is the association between alcohol and being an 'adult'. Children are taught right from an early age that it is a 'grown up' thing to do. Well changing the age of buying booze fae a shop won't change that! That requires a much more fundamental change in attitude! Maybe we should lower the drinking age? Perhaps that might solve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFusion Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 you say that, but some countrys have done this with lower percentage alcohols....In Holland for instance it's legal to buy beer and some wine at age 16but spirits etc are over 21. but then they give their "youth" responsibilitys like runnig the youth centres etc (which have bars btw) which is like a privilege that can be taken away if abused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well changing the age of buying booze fae a shop won't change that! That requires a much more fundamental change in attitude!Agreed; the problem is absolutely one of attitude. This is really rather the point I was trying to make. Fannying about with semi-arbitrary lines isn't going to change a whole lot. Under age drinkers exist already, they wont vanish just because a number has been changed in a book somewhere. I think MF also makes some good points about combining responsibilities and privileges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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