Stuart Hill (Captain Calamity) Forvik

[BALLACK]

Why?

 

THE TRUTH ABOUT FORVIK

 

We will prove here that the Forewick Holm (sadly known as Forvik Island since June 21st 2008) does not belong to Stuart Hill and can't be used by him to create laws, to sell it or to assume any local title or position.

 

For seven years, this english citizen has illegaly established residency on Forewick - without paying anything to the real owners -, has begun to build accomodation, and, on June 18th 2008, he has made political declaration about the Forvik's past and future status.

 

As real owners, we can't let Mr Hill use our property and provocate diplomatic crisis with the UK. All his historical explanations are false and dangerous, and we guess that he runs for money and he hopes a cheap glory (the Andy's 15 minutes, you know).

 

That is why.

[sassermaet]

The bit where he had to get his passport stamped before setting foot on Forvik was terrible to watch!

 

i certainly won't be going there for my hols!!

 

Yeah, so cringey And all that 'plot of land' crap?!

[JustMe]

Article on the Shetland News website stating that the cooncil has given him 7 days to remove it.

Interesting to see what comes of that, as Stuart Hill is saying that no one has the right to move it.

 

This is a bit odd. Yes the council can and should put 7 day notices on what seem to be abandoned vehicles but what we have here is a vehicle that appears to be obstructing a passing place. Should that not be a police matter where the police arrange to have the vehicle removed on the grounds of road safety?. If that means Stuart finally gets his day in court the so be it.

[JustMe]

Now here is a thought. How would you all feel if any income tax you had paid as a Shetland resident had to be refunded?.

[paulb]

And the moon is made out of green cheese.

 

Just because he raises a stink should not let him get off any lighter than anyone else. If the Northern constabulary are not prepared to in force the laws of the land then we should expect a real reduction in our council tax. As were the ones paying for there time they should get out there and sort it. They have more important things to do; could they care to tell us what are they doing during the week. I could understand that they may be a little busy at weekends but that's about it. Does sandness never get patrolled.

 

Off the top off my head he is breaking enough laws to make there clear up rates look good.

 

As he says he has not abandoned the car. its unfit to be on the road 1st offence 3 points, no mot it just cant have one in that condition another 3 points, no tax just a fine but im not complaining, very unlikely to have insurance 6 points. obstructing the highway/ parking on a no parking line. With just these offences he gets banned from driving. this then results in him not being able to get to either sandness or papa stour. Even better he rejects the free bus pass so he can stay in the south and annoy his neighbours.

[Carlos]

Now here is a thought. How would you all feel if any income tax you had paid as a Shetland resident had to be refunded?.

How would you feel if about 50% of the UK revenue from all North Sea Oil was paid to Shetland?

You don't have to be KOYAANISQATSI to see that's also exactly why it'll never happen.

[Hobbiniho]

^^ Surely a landie would drive out o fishboxes!

 

It possibly could. However, I noticed the "do not use tank" note on the side of the vehicle and my experience of human nature tells me that someone has either

 

a) Filled the tank with sugar

emptied the tank of any diesel that might have been in it.

c) the tank was emptied then filled with sugar.

 

 

the original tank fell off because it was rotten and has been replaced with a plastic one underneath the drivers seat, and as for moving it it wouldnt be much trouble for someone in sandness to just jump in and start it and park it somewhere more convinient

[jaydee67]

How would you feel if after that refund you had to find all the money to support previously government funded facilities - health service, defence, all council run services - education, social services, infrastructure, finances, etc, welfare agency, emergency services, transport links, etc, etc not to mention the changes in law and governance that would be required.

 

 

Oh - and that programme was embarrassing to watch (when did Tingwall move to Unst?), sure as h*ll is no-one putting a stamp on my passport unless it is a recognised govenment one!

[EM]

How would you feel if after that refund you had to find all the money to support previously government funded facilities - health service, defence, all council run services - education, social services, infrastructure, finances, etc, welfare agency, emergency services, transport links, etc, etc not to mention the changes in law and governance that would be required.

Quite so. It is very much a "What have the Romans ever done for us?" situation. Perhaps no aquaduct, but plenty else .

[madasaferret]

Better be careful he hasn't booby trapped the Land Rover in a similar manner he claims to have booby trapped the island.

[sheepshagger]

How would you feel if after that refund you had to find all the money to support previously government funded facilities - health service, defence, all council run services - education, social services, infrastructure, finances, etc, welfare agency, emergency services, transport links, etc, etc not to mention the changes in law and governance that would be required.

 

Thats quite an assumption, that we would have none of these services had the UK not had control over us, then again all the above mentioned servives are provided to a much higher standard in Norway.

 

 

Quite so. It is very much a "What have the Romans ever done for us?" situation. Perhaps no aquaduct, but plenty else

.

 

So the question is what have we been denied?

[jaydee67]

 

Thats quite an assumption, that we would have none of these services had the UK not had control over us, then again all the above mentioned servives are provided to a much higher standard in Norway.

 

I don't see where I say we wouldn't have had them if we had never been part of the UK - my point is they would need to be provided at a cost if we were to be independent.

[EM]

Thats quite an assumption, that we would have none of these services had the UK not had control over us,

I don't think that was what they said. The point was surely that if now the supposed mistake of having been run by the UK is rectified and a refund of all the past outgoings is requested, then that would need to be balanced by the amount of past incoming resources.

 

So the question is what have we been denied?

Not as much as the vast majority of people on the planet. Shetland may have been crapped on in the past, but it really can't moan about having been even remotely destitute for quite a while.

[Muppet]

How would you feel if after that refund you had to find all the money to support previously government funded facilities - health service, defence, all council run services - education, social services, infrastructure, finances, etc, welfare agency, emergency services, transport links, etc, etc not to mention the changes in law and governance that would be required.

 

Thats quite an assumption, that we would have none of these services had the UK not had control over us, then again all the above mentioned servives are provided to a much higher standard in Norway.

 

 

I'm pretty sure we'd have had to pay for them along with everything else provided or subsidised from taxes.

 

Just Me seemed to be suggesting that we simply wouldn't have had to pay.

[tlady]

Now here is a thought. How would you all feel if any income tax you had paid as a Shetland resident had to be refunded?.

 

I would feel pretty uncomfortable ... because all the taxes and national insurance that I could pay in my lifetime wouldn't cover the month in intensive care and 3 months in hospital in Aberdeen, that saved my daughters life.