Person Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Stuart could always get his land rover fixed to a drivable standard and then drive it to the nearest police station and park it outside. That would more affective at getting attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastener Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 I find it somewhat difficult to take seriously someone who sets out in a boat, using a road atlas to navigate by..........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Stuart could always get his land rover fixed to a drivable standard and then drive it to the nearest police station and park it outside. That would more affective at getting attention. And another complete waste of time and money for the Police and courts who have better things to do - suggest we don't encourage him. If he really wants to do something worthwhile with his life why can't he head for Africa and do something charitable instead of bleeding resources that are already overstretched. If I had time on my hands after retiring I'd like to think I could do something useful to help others less fortunate before I depart this planet rather than deliberately being a pain in the proverbial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 I don’t need anybody’s consent before I drive my car on the road. Nobody would care a hoot if I parked a ‘legitimate’ car where the Landrover is parked. Not many would get upset if I drove the Landrover with its Forvik registration etc (assuming it could drive) around the roads of Shetland. When the Landrover has served its purpose it will be removed. Meanwhile it is causing no harm or danger and need cause no offence if people take into account the fact that it could be good for Shetland as a whole. On the other hand, the vandalism it is currently suffering does nothing to help. err yes you do its called an mot inspector. obstructing a passing place. whilst driving a car with a plastic petrol tank you have endangered peoples lives. Its clear that you are causing a whole heap of offence. As an incomer like us you should be more respectful of the local customs. The first one we were taught was not to try and ram your ideas down there throat. You failed to get them interested so for pity sake leave them alone. The vandals that you claim have damaged your car are in fact performing a duty to there fellow islanders they have detained a dangerous and illegal car from committing further dangerous offences.I hope one day the sheriff can have a long talk with you im sure you will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 ^ Interesting quote you've pulled up there paul. For your information Calamity, I would have issue if you parked a perfectly legal car in that location, as would many others, it is dangerous, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 The vandals that you claim have damaged your car are in fact performing a duty to there fellow islanders they have detained a dangerous and illegal car from committing further dangerous offences.I assume that you (paulb) consider he is speaking about the fishboxing as the vandalism in question. This is probably the case, but it isn't entirely clear. For a start, I think few would actually define fishboxing as vandalism. More significantly there is the way he tried to laugh it off. I wonder if there has indeed been real damage inflicted. Wouldn't surprise me, especially as he has stated the vehicle is subject to Forvikian law, and therefore Forvikian enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khitajrah Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 ...the authorities backing off from any confrontation. ... The VAT authorities have taken no action since sending in the Sheriff’s Officer in July 2008. Would they let me get away with non- payment of over £1200 in other circumstances? .Um, just a wee comment on this. I owe the VAT people substantially more than you do and I haven't given them a penny towards it since I deregistered for VAT in May 2008. I've been waiting, and waiting for them to take action (upon the advice from Citizen's Advice). I telephoned them the other day to enquire as to why they haven't done anything and the very friendly and helpful fellow said, in not so many words, that they have far bigger fish to fry and that such a small amount, in the grand scheme of things, is not high on their list of priorities. He said although they are not planning to do anything about the debt any time soon that doesn't mean they won't deal with it in the future. So don't go thinking the VAT people think you have some sort of point to make which is why they've let you get away with non-payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 The vandals that you claim have damaged your car are in fact performing a duty to there fellow islanders they have detained a dangerous and illegal car from committing further dangerous offences.I assume that you (paulb) consider he is speaking about the fishboxing as the vandalism in question. This is probably the case, but it isn't entirely clear. For a start, I think few would actually define fishboxing as vandalism. More significantly there is the way he tried to laugh it off. I wonder if there has indeed been real damage inflicted. Wouldn't surprise me, especially as he has stated the vehicle is subject to Forvikian law, and therefore Forvikian enforcement. First of all, Paul that is total and utter nonsense, what the fishboxes have done is given Calamity an excuse not to drive the vehicle away from a potentially dangerous corner, now he'll have to wait until the authorities take it away. EM, there has now been real damage to the heap, as someone, in their eternal wisdom has seen fit to rip the drivers door off it's hinges, it was hanging free this mornin when I went past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuarthill Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I assume that you (paulb) consider he is speaking about the fishboxing as the vandalism in question. This is probably the case, but it isn't entirely clear. For a start, I think few would actually define fishboxing as vandalism. More significantly there is the way he tried to laugh it off. I wonder if there has indeed been real damage inflicted.By vandalism I mean spraying foam around the inside, tearing off the doors and attacking the bodywork with something like an iron bar. It seems that attempts at rational discussion have provoked some mindless elements to express themselves in the only way they know how. I was genuinely amused by the fishboxing, but this is something else. I will make no further comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Just a thought for whoever suggested a whip round to buy Stuart a ticket to get him away from Shetland. As long as he abandoned his protest about having to fill in some form to get the National Entitlement Pass then not only will it give him a free ferry trip to Aberdeen but it will also give him free bus travel all the way from Aberdeen to the English border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachmill Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 It seems that attempts at rational discussion have provoked some mindless elements to express themselves in the only way they know how.Pot. Kettle. Black. Stuart, you're acting in a manner which nobody I've ever heard of supports. Putting other peoples lives at risk through ill thought out ventures has more than seen to that. Given that even your ownership of forvik is under question (a matter that can only be resolved through legal proceedings I suspect) I'm not surprised none of the UK bean counters (nor royalty) are taking you seriously. How long do you think sorting this basic stumbling block will take to sort out? Years. Then, assuming you win that case, how long until you get your big day out in the UK courts? How long do you think that'll take? Many more years. Long story short - you need to be getting a good amount of active support in place now so there's someone there to take it all on years down the line... on the off chance it does ever come to anything. For any real support to be gathered you need to be taken seriously and you're steadily going backwards on that front as it is. I do hope you don't feel offended by any of this... but it's "your choice" to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifi Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Every individual can make their choice as to whether they see the Landrover as an eyesore or a legitimate protest on their behalf.You're seriously misguided if you believe that the people of Shetland think you're doing all this on our behalf. Perhaps we should have vote/referendum/petition to let you know definitively what we all think about your 'efforts' over the last few years? What would happen if it was shown in black & white that you didn't have the backing of the majority of Shetland people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairislefaerie Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 What would happen if it was shown in black & white that you didn't have the backing of the majority of Shetland people? God dont do that, you'd have every coastguard team all along the UK coast quaking in their boots as to what his next escapade might bring him along in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I assume that you (paulb) consider he is speaking about the fishboxing as the vandalism in question. This is probably the case, but it isn't entirely clear. For a start, I think few would actually define fishboxing as vandalism. More significantly there is the way he tried to laugh it off. I wonder if there has indeed been real damage inflicted.By vandalism I mean spraying foam around the inside, tearing off the doors and attacking the bodywork with something like an iron bar. It seems that attempts at rational discussion have provoked some mindless elements to express themselves in the only way they know how. I was genuinely amused by the fishboxing, but this is something else. I will make no further comments. how odd that the law abiding folks of sandness are slightly cross with you. Have you thought why. if i was to dump a load of junk on your doorstep how would you like it. I do not support criminal damage to anyone's property. Its wrong. But don't hide behind the damage to you highly dangerous car. If your car was not fit to drive to lerwick im sure that Jim's garage or even the recycling company would have shifted it. If you feel that you have been a victim of a crime please don't hesitate to go to lerwick police station and issue a complaint. You may want to take your Registration document. insurance and mot cert. Hey why not stick the photos of them on shetlink im sure we would live to know that your not a criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khitajrah Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 What would happen if it was shown in black & white that you didn't have the backing of the majority of Shetland people? Why not turn this thread into a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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