Stuart Hill (Captain Calamity) Forvik

[Ghostrider]

Scotland/U.K. giving up oil/gas rights without a fuss is quite rightly probably highly optimistic, but if Shetland were to legally become Indpendent its a fact of life they'd have to get used to.

 

Agriculture would need to change, being outwith the EU would not necessarily destroy it, in fact it might well do entirely the opposite as right now we're being discouraged from producing anything. Well over 10 years ago an acquaintence predicted that the EU would never be happy until it had succeeded in turning everything north of the Great Glen in to one agriculture free massive nature reserve. At the time I thought he was being a bit over-dramatic, but he was soon proved right, as we can see all around us today.

 

There is a demand and market on the Scottish mainland for Shetland bred livestock, independence in itself need not affect that, it would be in the hands of the Scottish/UK Government whether the import tax they levied encouraged or killed it. Producers would need to concentrate on catering more for local markets, again, the viability of which would be down to any export taxes levied by the Scots/UK Government or import tax levied by an independent Shetland Government. We'd also be free to negotiate agriculture export deals with our non-EU neighbours, on terms to suit ourselves, free of the shackles of and Scots/UK Imp/Exp levies.

 

Legal systems, residency, Head of State etc etc are all things that would be up for debate as and when necessary, the will of the majority would decide what Shetland wanted. Which is rather the point, we wouldn't need to have anything, or not have it, just because we already do, or someone else does, we can have it whatever way we want to have it. We'd be starting off with a clean sheet setting things up the way we believe would work best for us, and are most appropriate for the situation.

[Person]

How many of the oil fields lie within 200 miles of Shetlands waters?

[Ghostrider]

^^ Hutton, Heather, Ninian, Beryl to the east and everything to the west in the UK sector, at least, by my reckoning.

 

{Edit} Probably more to the NE, but finding a decent to scale map online isn't easy. Foinaven etc are debatable without the benefit of a to scale map, there's not much in it whether they'd be our's or Orkney's.

[MuckleJoannie]

How many of the oil fields lie within 200 miles of Shetlands waters?

 

There is a map here that shows a large number to the East of Shetland and within the current UK border. Whether the ones to the South East of Shetland would be within an independent Shetland's control would depend on how you drew the Southern boundary.

[paulb]

try importing a live animal into the UK from outside the EU very long winded. Yes It would be good if the farming community went back to producing more arable crops. Its daft that a rural area is so dependant on food imports.

if you look at hectares under the plough now compared to 20 years. Think when the crofters used to grow there own cereal and roots etc on the land. the lands good enough its just that its easier and more profitable growing sheep or it was.

[trowie246]

I have just voted "No" in this poll. I am a born and bred Shetlander and do not agree with Mr Hill's campaign. He does not come across to me a credible or responsible person because of his antics. I don't understand what his campaign is about because I thought it was to do with Shetland gaining independence but he has stated on this thread that it is about giving Shetlanders choice. I do not see how his campaign will achieve this.

 

He has re-named Forewick Holm as Forvik Holm - is this the old Norn name for it?

 

He has declared it a crown dependency - so he does not recognise local authority or government but recognises the Queen?

 

To be quite honest I would rather recognise the government and forget about the Queen. But that's another issue.

 

As for independence for Shetland I don't know enough about it. But as with most things when you bring in changes of any kind you are usually only swapping one set of problems for another.

[Muppet]

This poll has been running a peerie while now. It seems to be pretty stable at around 15% or less in favour of Stuart and 80% or more against.

 

That seems pretty consistent with comments on his bebo page

 

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=7361113250

 

and his Forwick Holm website guestbook comments. (which seems to have stopped taking comments! I've just tried to leave one.)

 

http://www.forvik.com/index.php?option=com_easygb&view=front&Itemid=125

 

Only Stuart's "inbox" seems to be in support of his actions, but of course we can't see that, and we don't have inside knowledge of his anti spam settings. Maybe it's time for Stuart to answer Fifi's question. How about it Stuart? Can you show us where your support is coming from, and if you can't will you let us get on with the lives we were happy with before you washed up on our shores and tried to tell us what we had all being doing so wrong for generations?

[Ghostrider]

^^ His Bebo isn't particularly representative, its set so that only "friends" can comment.

 

Considering some of the things so called "friends" had posted last I checked, I can understand why he's keeping his "enemies" silent.

[paulb]

He's even begging on bebo. Well i suppose we should expect nothing better.

[Roachmill]

Until he starts taking other peoples questions seriously and addressing them accordingly... how can he possibly expect anyone else to do show him the same courtesy? There's an easy answer to that one me thinks

[Trow87]

do you tink dat really is his bebo page? lookin ower it hit seems lik hit has been set up by someen fir a gaff, aa da notes ir been written at da sam time, an even fir stuart hit seems aafil beggarish.

 

i'm no sae sure hits actually him. stuart...wid du lik t confirm if yun is dy page?

 

i'll no haad me braeth waitin on an answer!

[Fruitjuice]

Short answer to da poll, NO. Man's a blockeet.

 

Thought Shetland didn't get very much publicity as it is, now everyone that watched Island Of Britain will get a bad impression of the place.

[Malcolm]

Any up-to-date news on El Calamity ?

[unlinkedstudent]

Has the Google car visited yet then? Did it survive his defences? Did he make the driver show his passport?

[Spinner72]

Any up-to-date news on El Calamity ?

 

He's been quite busy lately if you follow the chain of events triggered by the landrover "incident".

 

The latest correspondance with the DVLA is HERE

 

As mentioned so often before, whilst the dangerous aspects of some "stunts" are unnaceptable, you cannot deny that so far neither the Tax office, the SIC, or indeed the Police, are prepared to press ahead with legal action.

 

It will be interesting to see if the DVLA do, but i suspect they will wriggle out of it as the others have.

 

I think the matter of driving offences is worth debating - the police have an admission from Stuart both in writing, and also publicly on his website, that he was committing traffic offences, yet they failed to prosecute.

 

Would anyone else have been "dismissed" in this manner? I doubt it.