penfold Posted September 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 yeah cant beat da road trip nort fae the Ness, set aff at 1030 and get hame sometime sunday!!! pity aboot the fing score dis year tho!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 So is the works league preparing for a whole load of new teams next season then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 So is the works league preparing for a whole load of new teams next season then? The AGM season is about to start shortly so lord kens, what do you think though nederlander whats your stance on the shape of football in shetland and the best strategy to move it forward? the more opinions the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Now there is a question! Not entirely sure to be honest, been out of football for a good few years now, but am considering a comeback with the Rebels if it goes ahead! I canna see teams lik Yell carying on wi the size o squad they have, and have heard rumours that a few players may be leaving, no sure how reliable that is though! So if they fold, then where do all their players go? And they have some crackin players, particularly some o the young wans! As for the future o Shetland fitba, I would say dat is for the powers that be to decide dat! although I will say that there seems to be a trend for players who cannot get a game for their local teams moving to the works league, which would appear to be improving its standard, that said, some of these players could quite easily play A's fitba, if they could fin a team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 What is it do you think that hinders new teams starting up from joining the SFA competitions? and go to the works league? Would stopping the 3 named A player rule in the reserve league and allowing clubs with only one team join the lower division to start with make a difference? With the demise of the southern league I was going to bring up at the Ness United Agm the feasability of starting up a third Ness utd team to enter the works league to make sure that we able to provide football for all standards and level of commitment in our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 After reading most the comments made I am confused how so many people can misjudge what the works league really should be there for. I have spoken to many works league players over the last year and heard every one that has been playing for at least 5 or 6 years say there should be a age cap on joining the league because far to many good young players are joining the works league. Yes it does improve the league but, these are the players that we as a whole senior league set-up should be trying to stop moving into the works league at all costs. These players just to mention a few, Ian Bray, Danny Carter and most of the cosmos team. If these players were still playing in the A league it would improve the standard of football which, in the long run is what you want. Even moving the like of the Cosmos into the A league eg, another town team would help along with a pool of players available for transfer or loan. This would have saved the likes of Yell and Burra because, if the bigger teams have players that they know would like to benefit from playing A league football or a player who just wants to play week in week out, it would double the standard of the senior football and make us improve as a county. Obviously the player would have to agree with the team to move but, it would be the players decision. As for the B league keep it as a reserve league if a team has enough players to field a team, allow them but, as for a main team playing in the B league it would be a bit unfair. In my view this needs to be done soon before more teams go under!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 As for the B league keep it as a reserve league if a team has enough players to field a team, allow them but, as for a main team playing in the B league it would be a bit unfair. In my view this needs to be done soon before more teams go under!!!!! I think they should open it up to new teams by letting teams join the reserve league as it as the moment and grow the numbers to a point where you can do what Orkney have with a 1st and 2nd division and a stand alone Reserve league here is the link to their site, promotion and relegation is one up one down. http://oafa.leaguerepublic.com/Index.do?selectedSeason=8107537&selectedDivision=5159279 The association e.g member clubs need to look at what we can do to make the competitions more attractive for new teams to join, if not in the future we will be revisiting the problem of just "6" teams in the top division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeemsie1989 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well, Ian Bray choose the works league because he says he doesn't want to play as fast as A league anymore, so he's choosing the easy quiet option of works league. Possibly like many of the younger players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I think there are a number of reasons that teams and players would join the works league over the A League. A chance to win something, not currently likely in the senior league by all accountsA more relaxed leagueStandards not so high (lets not forget, many players are not good enough for the senior league, and as such I dont think the should be discriminated by an age cap)There also seems to be a lot of politics in play in the senior leagues that do not seem to exist, certainly to the same extent in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Thats what I am getting at, why make new teams join your top division? surely it would be better to allow them to enter the lower division to find their feet. And if the team are good enough to finish top of the division then they should get promotion to the next division. There were certainly politics at play at the works league AGM I attended this year, though it was on different issues than you would see at the SFA meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeemsie1989 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Hmmm... there may be something in that. I still like the idea of a promotion/ relegation system though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I couln't agree more penfold! I think the idea, well the idea with the Rebels team that is planning to enter the WL is that its a group of guys who haven't played competitive football in years, and want to have some fun! After all, isn't that what its all about? Ps perhaps my politics point was unfounded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 As for the B league keep it as a reserve league if a team has enough players to field a team, allow them but, as for a main team playing in the B league it would be a bit unfair. In my view this needs to be done soon before more teams go under!!!!! I think they should open it up to new teams by letting teams join the reserve league as it as the moment and grow the numbers to a point where you can do what Orkney have with a 1st and 2nd division and a stand alone Reserve league here is the link to their site, promotion and relegation is one up one down. http://oafa.leaguerepublic.com/Index.do?selectedSeason=8107537&selectedDivision=5159279 The association e.g member clubs need to look at what we can do to make the competitions more attractive for new teams to join, if not in the future we will be revisiting the problem of just "6" teams in the top division. i get were your coming from the 2 division idea is a very good idea but is there enough teams???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeemsie1989 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 No there's not. You would all the B teams to turn into new teams or have the Works league as the 2nd division. You couldn't have say Spurs A vs. Spurs B, or any variation of that. I do like the idea though, and think that there's mileage in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 true but i said if we need to try and speak to teams and even try ask the likes of wrultizers mossbank cosmos the younger teams to join but at the same time these teams will have no youth development the life blood of any team amatuer or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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