islandhopper Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Apparently the Golf Course will eventually create upto 6,000 jobs, based on growth and what-not.... where on planet earth is a ressort development which created more than five new jobs per bed ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hence the use of "eventually" "based on growth" "and what-not". It does not mean that the golf course resort will create 6,000 jobs, but growth around the whole area and such. Not my words anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styumpie Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Fantastic victory in financial and tourism terms for Scotland, If the people who were concerned about the environmental impact of the project could have helped the plan go ahead while giving ideas and suggestions on protecting as much as possible, that would have been the best of both worlds, but outright denying it was always going to be a big mistake. We could not afford to lose it given that we will need to keep the country economically viable during the coming recession/depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshagger Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'd be quite happy for every single Oyster Catcher in the world to simultaneously die.come now JAS I hope you were trying to be sarcastic there.Oyster catchers etc bring more tourists to Shetland than the current crop of musicians.If the shalders are of no consequence then surely the musicians are needed even less. No need for £15 million arts trust bar.This is because my first year halls were shaped like a big a square with an courtyard in the middle - where they decided to nest and they were loud. All the time. Every minute. Of every. friggin. day. maybe the muppets that built the halls built them in an area that the shalders already nested.So maybe it was the case of student twats staggering home drunk at 8:30pm waking the shalders early and fmucking up their sleep. but I forget myself art students are the most (self)important things on the planet, their our only hope for the future after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairislefaerie Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 yay yet another underused eyesore clique club messes up yet another part of Aberdeenshire, pretty soon the entire area is going to be a builders free for all, seems natural counts for nothing where big names and money is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ of Hildisvik Posted November 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Re , Styumpie's comments, the RSPB did draw up plans for the golf course that protected the dune system SSSI, but Trump didn't want to know, cos he is a selfish so and so.It is a white elephant, given the choice whether to play golf in Aberdeenshire in the winter months or go to Spain, canaries or Florida, seems to me a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I think this is the best thing to happen for the north of Scotland for a long time! I understand some people are disappointed that the wonderful sand dunes will be lost, but how many jobs do they provide? In a time where the economic climate is what it is, people losing their jobs left, right and centre (particularly in the buiding industry I might add), for someone like this to come along is a godsend IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ of Hildisvik Posted November 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 ^^^^^ Isn't it the job of the Scottish governent to sort out the country and not an American Billionaire??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Oh undoubtedly it is, but every little helps...no? Would you suggest the government do something similar? No, because then you would all complain that they were wasting the people's money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ of Hildisvik Posted November 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Well when it comes to wasting peoples money, theres nothing new there! But i expect Salmond and co will be te first to play a round on the 2 new courses, assuming they can play golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifi Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Common sense has prevailed. There was no way the Scottish govt was going to let this pass by, quite rightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bridgman-Elliot Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 The reasons why there was problems with this project in particular interest me, my efforts to try and find out proved difficult mind you.. I asked some of the local politicans and associated parties in the council and they quickly didn't want to talk about it at all, nor did they want to talk about any other possible developments what so ever.. But before they stopped talking, they did mention that the whole situation grew from an apparent lack of communication! Donald started the ball rolling by asking if they thought a development was a good idea, they said yes in principle, then Donald went away and did some plans. So far so good.. Then Donald presented those plans, and they didn't like them. Now, I would have thought your or I might then have chatted with Donald and sorted out our differences, engaged in dialogue, communication, back and forth and all that like so that the things they didn't like could be changed, offers made/etc/etc. But no, they didn't like them, they objected, and they refused to discuss it.. Shouldn't the solution be for local councils and politicans to engage in more active communication so that plans can be altered and changed to make the majority of people happy, rather than everyone take sides and suddenly battle it out to the final victory. Now if we could just get Donald to come here and post and give us his side of things.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandhopper Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 ... I understand some people are disappointed that the wonderful sand dunes will be lost, but how many jobs do they provide? ...... a bit short sighted ... that's not the question. Looking around Europe (except France and parts of Italy, those in favour of love & romance) the dominating problem is, that "Scotland is selling out its natural beauties!" Golf ressorts or windmill parks - in the eyes of the typical tourist from the continent - are nothing else but slightly different facettes of just one image ... Putting those dunes at risk, putting the peatlands of Lewis, Caithness/Sutherland or Shetland at risk is nothing else but putting Scotland's natural ressources at risk ... A single dune will not create one job, putting Scotland's natural ressources at risk will cost you thousands of jobs in the tourism business ... not from the US/Canadian section of "back to the roots" tourism but most of the European business. If you want to have a European component within your tourism business you should be well aware what you are putting at risk in terms of natural resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederlander Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ A bit short sighted in your opinion perhaps, not mine. Lets not get into the windfarm arguement, as it could be argued that it would be short sighted not to build a windfarm, but that is for another thread. However, the same could be said of Trump's venture. I would be interested in seeing the number of tourists, European or otherwise, that make a beeline to Scotland to see sand dunes in Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairislefaerie Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Id be interested in knowing whats going to happen with all the other golf courses within the aberdeenshire area of which more than 3/4 are underused and with the opening if yet another, will be suffer even more under use as everyone rushes to play the new grounds. There is hardly enough trade in golf to keep these courses open and well maintained, most of them have already gone through staff cut backs, reduced wins on trophy events etc etc. I fear the future does not bode well for the resources and employments that exist already when this eyesore comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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