paulb Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/922131?UserKey=they are not telling the whole truth they are not cutting jobs but they are not filling empty posts. the wards are finding it hard to run with the staff they have. Any cuts and your health and life will be at risk. if there is a major flu or other eerdemic they could not cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest posiedon Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dr Taylor said the number of nurses employed in hospitals had not been reduced. So where exactly in the article you linked to, does it say?.They are not cutting jobs but they are not filling empty posts. the wards are finding it hard to run with the staff they have. I couldn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted November 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 trust me go and ask a nurse who works for them. ask them how many have left and not been replaced. ask them about the new staffing level planning. ask them what happens when people are sick or take annual leave. ask them if they feel that the staff levels are safe. ask them if they trust the board. ask why the spent 500,000 on fire alarms for care centres. ask them about the reduction in the number of beds. ask them why they are paying for bed blocking and why they are not making the council fund the patients that they cannot care for. also make a note of how many nurse/care workers posts are advertised against admin/management. ask the nurses if they feel cared for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 ask why the spent 500,000 on fire alarms for care centres. I thought the SIC ran all the Shetland care homes. Why did the NHS spend money on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 they did.http://www.shb.scot.nhs.uk/board/meetings/documents/2007/20070320-2007_10.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 This is capital money, ie earmarked for buildings, equipment. It could not have been spent on nurses salaries or other running costs. If it was not paid over to the SIC it would have been returned unspent to the Scottish Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 or it could have been spent on the poor state of some of there buildings. again they have cut staffing levels; Which the staff are just able to cover the needs of the patient but there' s no give in the sytem for any unexpected events. The staff do not trust the management they are only intrested in cost cutting/savings. If nurses were as militant as the SIC staff they would have a strike on there hands. But they have to much professional pride to do so. A case in point the population in Shetland is aging so the trust reduces the care of the elderly service from three ward at montfield plus a rehab ward to 15 beds at gilbert bain. as there will not be any new build care centres were are the sick older persons going to go. I know i sound like a moaner but the board is going to have major problems soon if they dont stop there policy of cost cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenorth Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 This is all true. As the man said, 'ask any nurse'. We have an increasing older population many of whom have chronic health problems, and decreasing local clinical capacity to address these problems. Increasing the number of SIC care centre beds will do nothing to deal with this, as none of them are nursing homes and cannot provide care which is anything like that which is delivered in a hospital ward. Redesign and 'doing things differently' will never supplant the fundamentals of an appropriately sized and trained clinical workforce. NHS managers are between a rock and a hard place, and are under huge pressure to make so -called 'efficiency savings'. In practice, this means that the local nursing workforce (the biggest consumer of revenue costs) is likely to be the area for these savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddtablet Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Shetlink seems to have been gagged regarding the porter/patient transfer to the Gilbert Bain. Glad it was not my family who were reduced to this abysmal service. Anybody got any more tales to tell ? (***MOD Edit - Merged with existing thread***) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Shetlink seems to have been gagged regarding the porter/patient transfer to the Gilbert Bain. Glad it was not my family who were reduced to this abysmal service. Anybody got any more tales to tell ? I hardly think Shetlink was gagged. Maybe we are all waiting to see what sort of answers the Scottish Ambulance Service and NHS 24 can come up with. Perhaps Fire and Rescue could be called upon or could the health board pay for a taxi?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medziotojas Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I was appalled to say the least when I read this article. To think, we have a much better service here in Eastern Europe, even if the hospitals aren't quite as aesthetically pleasing. Okay, living on an island, you can't expect all the amenities that are associated with larger populations, but Christ on a bike, if people are worried about Da Nort Boat being a lifeline service, what are their views on this fiasco? This situation must be addressed yesterday! Waiting is not an option. Waiting for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siffy Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 It can't be a case of shetland just having ONE ambulance as the article leads us to beleive, can it! ? Could it be the case that only ONE AMBULANCE CREW is available on the night shift, but that is no excuse if that is the case, surely they must at least have another crew available on call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Shetlink seems to have been gagged regarding the porter/patient transfer to the Gilbert Bain. Glad it was not my family who were reduced to this abysmal service. Anybody got any more tales to tell ? (***MOD Edit - Merged with existing thread***) Nah, with the bad joke we have these days for a so called health service, its just about par for the course, why get hot under the collar over the norm! I could recount numerous personal experiences with the NHS stretching back over the last 20 years or so that were as "unprofessional" and/or as "life threatening", but the libel laws rather discourage it. It would just be my word against that of a Government backed national organisation, who, like the rest of their peers won't let one of their number be hung out to dry, and bury and fudge any and all investigations in to allegations that, if proven, gets them bad PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medziotojas Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 The NHS is a joke, and Britain prides itself on this institution. Wir peerie wan wis poorly last Setirday. Shu wis hostin, an' haein difficulty draain breath. Nijole phoned 112, and an ambulance was here within ten minutes. The doctor decided to take Vilte to hospital, and within one hour we had her blood test and X-ray results. Turned out she had pneumonia. We were given two beds, one for the parent--one for Vilte, and I spent half the week in hospital. What can I say? Great service, great food, and even if the building was a bit dilapidated we were very well looked after. Now Vilte, and my eldest daughter Laura, have a free ticket to the health spa in Druskininkai thanks to a very perceptive and thoughtful doctor. The experience all in all was an eye opener for me. Sorry, Mam and Dad if you're reading this; we didn't want to worry you. Da bairns are fine and weel noo. I think in a similar situation in Shetland this would not have been diagnosed. No X-ray, no blood sample; only vitamin C, paracetemol and bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 rtages dont just apply to the nursing staff, al areas are short of staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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