ArabiaTerra Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 An excellent article on why grand conspiracy's are unlikely if not downright impossible. http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 An excellent speech on why grand conspiracy's are likely if not downright possible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY Who says you can't trust the leaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabiaTerra Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Hmmmm, I post an argument against conspiracy's and you answer with another conspiracy theory, this time the granddaddy of them all, the Kennedy assasination. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Why would the Kennedy assasination be defined as a conspiracy theory. Most people now accept what was once thought of as a "conspiracy" to be fact. Therin lies the issue. There really is no such thing as a conspiracy theory, its just a name people give to alternative views on/interpetations of, the facts, at any given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Why would the Kennedy assasination be defined as a conspiracy theory. Most people now accept what was once thought of as a "conspiracy" to be fact.No, you seem to be misunderstanding the meaning of the word conspiracy. There are factual conspiracies as well as imagined ones. Conspiracy means several people secretly planning to do something which is usually illegal. A conspiracy theory is a proposal that a conspiracy has been perpetrated. Because the term conspiracy theory is so widely used dismissively, many automatically assume that the word conspiracy implies lunatic fringe thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabiaTerra Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Why would the Kennedy assasination be defined as a conspiracy theory. Most people now accept what was once thought of as a "conspiracy" to be fact. My point is there was no conspiracy, just a lone madman. The fact that "most people" believe otherwise doesn't make it so. I bought into the conspiracy theory after the film JFK, but when I looked into it, it just didn't stand up. Then I found out that every single "fact" quoted in that film is wrong. Every single one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastditch Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 I thought the JFK assination was proved to be by members of Red Dwarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabiaTerra Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 ^^^^^ Duck! ^^^^^ Three shots. The first one missed, the second hit Kennedy's neck, went straight through and hit Governor Connelly (the so called "magic bullet"), and the third blew Kennedy's brains out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 JFK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62gvoKyODu4 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705829/ End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 The case of his shooting would be a separate debate. Despite the headline placed on it by the uploader, the reason I used that video was for the context of the speech used within while he was very much alive, not while he was dying, with bullets pumping through him.If you could just address the content of the speech itself and not the odd nature of his death; as a method of detracting from what I posted then this might give you some insight into the nature of our current situation. So the question is, why would the president make a speech which seems to mark him out as a full blown conspiracy theorist; could it be that given his position, he perhaps had a little more insight into the nature of the game than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njugle Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 It would be interesting to know more of the context he gave that speech in. It is indeed an interesting script, but when he gave it and whether he introduced it with any reference as to whom he was referring to would make a big difference to its significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencey7 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 The "secret society" Kennedy refered to in his speech was Communism, specifically the Communist government of the USSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabiaTerra Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 ^^^^^ Agreed, the speech was about the Soviet Union. It was the height of the cold war, "Reds under the Bed", Cuba, Berlin Wall etc. There's no need to look any further than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 JFK - "The very word secrecy is repugnent In a free and open society and we are as a people are inherently and historially opposed to secert societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings; for we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy, that relies primarialy on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence; on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimadation instead of free choice. It is a system that has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit highly efficient machine, that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. It's preparations are concealed not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced not praised. No expendature is questioned, no secret is revealed. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon, decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people; confident that with your help, man will be what he was born to be; free and independent." Or you could trust this creed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 The speech was on secret societies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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