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Shopkeepers in the town are hoping the £250,000 system will protect their prized flower baskets next summer – after they were effectively turned into litter bins last year – as well as deter more serious crime, which is rare on the islands.

 

£250,00 well spent?? :?:

 

Now, about my dahlias... :twisted:

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http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/news_11_2008/Biggest%20brother%20of%20them%20all.htm

 

The investment is designed to make one of safest places in Scotland even safer and also to attract new blood to the isles, according to Willie Shannon, the council's lead officer for community safety.

 

Come to Shetland. Our capital, Lerwick, has more CCTV cameras per head of population than anywhere else in Scotland!

 

IMHO this is not a great selling point.

 

 

 

changed "We have" to "Our capital, Lerwick, has"

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The investment is designed to make one of safest places in Scotland even safer and also to attract new blood to the isles, according to Willie Shannon, the council's lead officer for community safety.

 

If the CCTV cameras are intended to attach new blood, surely they should have been sited in Fetlar and Unst which are suffering population decline, rather than Lerwick ? :)

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Anybody want to place estimates on the % reduction in reported crimes in Lerwick, and the % improvement on prosecution rates following the CCTV going live?

If every survey ever conducted on the matter is anywhere near right, I'd hazard a guess of 0% - 1% at the outside - after the initial upsurge of (heavily publicised) prosecutions of idiots who (drunk?) forgot about the cameras and did something stupid in front of one. In surrounding areas, the crime rate will go up - which no doubt will then be used as an excuse for infesting everywhere in the islands with this intrusive abuse of technology, as per everywhere else in the once-free UK. Has crime in mainland UK fallen as the place has been infested with snooping cameras? You must be joking. Read the papers.

 

The investment is designed to make one of safest places in Scotland even safer and also to attract new blood to the isles, according to Willie Shannon, the council's lead officer for community safety.

Willie Shannon is just parrotting the official Home Office line here. As the research shows, CCTV does not make anywhere "safer". It just records video of your innocent comings and goings without asking your permission, which I regard as a gross intrusion. No-one ever points a CCTV camera at you for your benefit. They point it at you because (a) they don't trust you and (B) they have no respect for you - you are just a "data subject" to them.

 

I'm still planning to move to Shetland, but this is despite your obscene CCTV infestation, not because of it, Mr. Shannon.

 

Regular readers of Shetlink will note that my opinion on this matter has not changed one iota. Nor will it, because I took the trouble to find out the facts before forming it. An affront is an affront, no matter what silver-tongued tosh is trotted out to "justify" it.

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Yes, I had in mind the "failure standards" from "Yes Minister" - where you define in advance the targets that would make a project a success or a failure. I haven't been able to find the SIC report which might have mentioned the expectations, but I suspect CCTV in general, and this one in particular, are oversold and end up under-delivering.

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One time at the Scalloway shop, I was out with my sister and my father, we spotted two little boys dressed in hoodies and tracksuit bottoms, then one of them spotted a camera facing near the checkout and then he said "Oh, look a CCTV camera!" and took one step forward and showed the V-sign with both of his hands, I felt unprotected about that action he did. Which is why I always stay at home lazing around.

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Jest back in these fair isles after a few months away, an' catchin' up with the world accordin' tae yez all.

 

Have te say, I am no fan o' CCTV either an' I have had my fair share o' run ins with the ones in blue suits, but 'justlookin', that's a helluva allegation ye're makin', even fer this forum. :shock:

 

Any evidence te back it up, other than "my grandmother heard it from her neighbour who knew a man who heard it from his employer's dog"? :?:

 

Only such eejit I can remember, was booted out after he went swimmin' in the scud an' outragin' those sensitive souls in Scalloway!

 

Even if I don't agree with some of my peers here, I at least respect their abilities te put forward arguments based on fact and figures, rather than a sweepin' statement (so far) without substance, such as this one.

 

Rebuttal, please? (Gowaan! I love a good argie-bargey, me!) :wink:

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