Pig flu and Shetland

[paulb]

^ That document is 3 years old.

yes it is they are just starting to update there emergency planning. Montfield will not be a secondary hospital. There will be problems covering the number of patients expected.

[trout]

Tell you what paulb .. why don't you get in a months supply of beans out wast - and hole yourself in and don't contact anyone including electronic communications.

 

We'll send someone round to you once the all clear has been declared.

[EM]

I couldn't figure out how I'd caught a cold in a heat wave.

My understanding is that the reason people catch colds more often in cold weather is not because viruses likes low temperatures, but because people spend more time inside in close proximity to others.

 

As for global pandemics, end of civilisation, "we are all doomed" etc., I reckon it is just a matter of time. The question for me is not if what paulb postulates will occur, but only how extreme it will be. Having said that, it isn't something which worries me in the slightest, but I'm sure it will happen.

[Ghostrider]

Don't fear the reaper, if your number's up, its up!

 

Be informed and be sensible, but talk of worst case scenarios of breaking down public services like it was imminent, especially at this stage, is just scaremongering which will breed mass hysteria and panic, and are the worst things you can have right now.

 

On our own, huh? Been there done that, just wind the clock back 35+ years.

[paulb]

I'm sorry if you think I'm scaremongering but I'm not. have a read of this doctors account.

 

I'm a specialist doctor in respiratory diseases and intensive care at the Mexican National Institute of Health. There is a severe emergency over the swine flu here. More and more patients are being admitted to the intensive care unit. Despite the heroic efforts of all staff (doctors, nurses, specialists, etc) patients continue to inevitably die. The truth is that anti-viral treatments and vaccines are not expected to have any effect, even at high doses. It is a great fear among the staff. The infection risk is very high among the doctors and health staff.

 

There is a sense of chaos in the other hospitals and we do not know what to do. Staff are starting to leave and many are opting to retire or apply for holidays. The truth is that mortality is even higher than what is being reported by the authorities, at least in the hospital where I work it. It is killing three to four patients daily, and it has been going on for more than three weeks. It is a shame and there is great fear here. Increasingly younger patients aged 20 to 30 years are dying before our helpless eyes and there is great sadness among health professionals here.

Antonio Chavez, Mexico City

 

Again i'm not trying to spook anyone but we need a secure food supply to last a number of weeks, we need sufficient medical supplies and we need someone in charge of the public health services to get there fingers out and do some real planning.

 

We also need to plan for our own welfare.

 

if that's too scary for you trout then i'm sorry. But you plan for the worst not the best outcome.

[PJ of Hildisvik]

Wev'e got more chance being wiped out locally by the closure of the Doom-ray nuke power plant, if they decide to go ahead with a nice little incinerator

 

My advice would be avoid Mexico, Mexican's, Mexican food, but not Tequila, drink a bottle of that should kill off the bugs, unless it kills you first that is

[Ghostrider]

I'm sorry if you think I'm scaremongering but I'm not. have a read of this doctors account.

 

Staff are starting to leave and many are opting to retire or apply for holidays.

 

I hope the above is suffering from something lost/gained in translation from Spanish to English, otherwise it doesn't say much for the rest of the article.

 

Taking holidays, in the face of an emergency? Rats leaving the sinking ship comes straight to mind. Not the image health professional worldwide usually try and portray, is it!

 

Retire? How does that one work? Sounds a bit like throwing toys out of the pram. "I'm giving up my lifetime career because I have to deal with these flu cases". Not much positive image building going on there then either.

[trout]

if that's too scary for you trout then i'm sorry. But you plan for the worst not the best outcome.

 

oh paulb oh paulb for da luv o da lord himsel

 

Why don't you prepare for armageddon in your cupboard with your tinfoil hat on and leave the rest of us to take any information onboard in our own inimitable way from whatever sources we personally deem fit.

 

If you continue in this manner by posting in a troll like fashion, however passionate you may be about this, you will force us into a corner and oot will come da T&C's! "You can't handle the truth?! - Colonel Nathan R. Jessep"

[paulb]

Just to please you trout i will shut up. I'm not trolling as you say. But remember just because you feel that im being alarmist will not change the facts if this bug gets up here. Further there is likely to be a reduction in the ability of the health service to deal with large health issues. Just watch the press.

 

Again im sorry you think im trolling but im not. Implying that im paranoid because i raise this is also a little beneath contempt.

[Hobbiniho]

we better be careful it could spread quite fast especially as pigs can fly now http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/news_04_2009/Pigs%20can%20fly%20at%20the%20Bonhoga.htm

[Infiltrator]

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[hellsbells]

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No worrys; this sounds more like a false, "false flag" drill. Just throwing a pebble in the pond to watch how the ripples move and see if they can get us jumping through all their hoops in the correct order.

 

I'll only play along if they can get the price of bacon to drop.

[Para Handy]

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[MJ]

I'll only play along if they can get the price of bacon to drop.

Fortunately nearly all bacon sold in the UK comes from European stock which NEVER see the light of day. Pigs are kept in large barn things that prevent disease. Apparently according to the Danes I spoke to it's better for the pigs... they do the same in the Caribbean, suprised they don't in Mexico, but large country.