RickB Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 With the European elections next month, Ive been trying to decide which party to vote for. As yet there has been no sign of any canvassing by any party in Shetland. why should we vote for them if they cant be bothered to ask for our vote?In my younger days I was actively involved in one of the major scottish parties but these days im pretty much a floating voter. With the apathy among the parties this could be the first election that I dont vote.Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Election? Next month? Only joking, they've been making a fuss 'cause labour might loose a couple of council seats in England. It's a forgone conclusion isn't it? With PR most will be the Scottish Nazi Party, two Conservative, one Liberal and if Glasgow gets out to vote one Labour.Quite suprised thought UKIP was dead, Tommy Sheridian might as well be, why do the BNP even bother and who on earth are the Jury Team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest posiedon Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 ^^^The Jury Team can fix broken politics This is the thinking behind the Jury Team, launched today by Sir Paul Judge, a former director-general of the Conservative party. It is a political party only in theory, because electoral law requires it to be one. In fact it is an anti-party. Its slogan is "Politics without Parties". Its aim is to identify and promote independents to stand first for the European and then for the Westminster parliaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Aye but they're all English *blank* (swearing filter did not give suitable alternative)all the stuff about drawing short straw to make the "long" journey up to Edinburgh, no blooming further than Brussels/Strasbourg. you'd think they'd have someone in Scotland, dealing with the Scottish side of things.Still think Una Murray should have started that political party of hers, but oh well, 10years later, and Holyrood is filled with different faces but more of the same, and the EU is filled will some very familar ones.Interesting to see Tommy's only second on his party's list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 In my opinion, wether political parties actively campaign or not in our area is irrelevant. It's up to the individual to first decide if they want to have a say in who gets into power and then decide for themselves who. I mean it's nice to feel like they care about us I suppose. For example, if a tory campaigner came up to me tommorow and took an interest in me, trying to get me to vote tory, It wouldn't matter at all. I fundamentally disagree with many of their policies, so in their present state I just wont vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I personally like to vote for someone I know and trust to represent me, one of my reasons for hating PR. Due to my ideals of wanting a honest and honorable MSP & councillor in the past I have voted conservative, as the Scottish conservative an unionist party is actually made up of some quite decent human beings, unlike some of the other parties.Why should I vote for someone who doesn't even think my vote is worth campaigning for? I know nothing about any of the parties policies currently in Europe, I know they bare very little resemblance to national politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I couldn't vote for someone even if they were best friend if we had conflicting ideals. To me, the reason why you should vote for someone is to have a say. Say hypothetically very few people turned up to vote at the next general election apart from labour supporters. Now there would be in a minority in the country as a whole, but if they are the people who vote then no-one else really has a right to complain about labour if they don't vote. To extend the analogy to Europe, if some law is passed that you are annoyed about and you haven't voted, you have already implicitly declared that you don't want a say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 But MEPs aren't there to represent their ideals, or to represent their constituents, they're voted in to represent their party - that's the wonders of PR.the more remote (not necessarily geographically) the politics the less likely folk are to vote for it. How is anyone expected to vote for a faceless name? I'd like to think that who I vote for does what's best for me, not because their party thinktank has a whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well obviously they are there to respresent their party and it's ideals. If their party gets voted in, that means that their views most closely represent the views of what the people want, so they therefore represent the people. If people aren't interested in the election because it's all very far away and not immediately tangible that's their business. They choose not to vote. If you don't want to vote because you don't think any of the parties will do what's best for you, that's your decision. It's completely your choice, no one is forcing you to vote so I don't see what the problem is. If you do choose not to vote however, you can't complain at whatever the result of the election is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshagger Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 how about if more folk don't vote than vote for any party then none of the above get in and they are not allowed to stand in a rerun election.or if more folk dont vote than vote nationaly then 500 odd folks of good standing are chosen at random and they form the parliment for the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I like your thinking Sheepshagger. As far as the Euro elections go, I have no idea who represents me, what they stand for, what party they belong to, what they've ever done for me, what I would possibly want them to do for me. Kinda makes me wonder why they're there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshagger Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 ^ to line their pockets. I like your thinking Sheepshagger. not many on here would say that in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 With the European elections next month, Ive been trying to decide which party to vote for. As yet there has been no sign of any canvassing by any party in Shetland. why should we vote for them if they cant be bothered to ask for our vote? If it any consolation, they are not canvassing in East London yet either ... and probably won't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 That's true can we name the bod who represents us and have they been up here. And what has this Parliament done for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 That's true can we name the bod who represents us and have they been up here. And what has this Parliament done for us. Shetland voted no to joining the EU so I don’t recognise that anyone represents Shetland there and I won’t be voting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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