Shoogler Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Dave Clark has shown himself to be a bit of a bully. Jonathon Wills is entitled to stand up to this bullying and go public to expose it for what it is. Regardless of whether it is 'proven' or not, i have no doubt that it took place. It is fascinating that an enquiry into this whole affair is needing to take many weeks. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Dave Clark has shown himself to be a bit of a bully. Jonathon Wills is entitled to stand up to this bullying and go public to expose it for what it is. Regardless of whether it is 'proven' or not, i have no doubt that it took place. It is fascinating that an enquiry into this whole affair is needing to take many weeks. Why? I think a month is a reasonable amount of time. When I investigated complaints for a Local Authority, I would usually give the Complainant notice that investigations would take approximately 3-4 weeks. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Investigator had other investigations running concurrently. In addition, the Investigator may wish to interview people, look at paperwork, phone bills, etc. In essence, I deem a month to be a reasonable timescale in order to carry out the investigations thoroughly and with due diligence (not to mention thinking up all the big words to fill up the end of a page, string a paragraph out and ensure that the punctuation and grammar is spot on ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy parks Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Dave Clark has shown himself to be a bit of a bully. Jonathon Wills is entitled to stand up to this bullying and go public to expose it for what it is. Who has Dave Clark been (allegedly) bullying then, apart from Dr Willis himself and that's just his word against Clark's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 ^^ Its the CE's job to bully the council, little moves ahead as is, but if he didn't bully them along we'd be at risk of going backwards. If Clark's railroading his "buddy" in to run the AHS review wasn't bullying, I dunno what is. Clark just came on a little too strong a bit to soon, and one of the component parts of the council has taken umbrage at being railroaded, reared up on his henter feet and begun snapping back. Two large egos in one hus will always ding one another every so often and raise a few sparks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euripides Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Does the SIC have an anti-bullying policy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jz Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Does the SIC have an anti-bullying policy? Yes it does. It's called the"POLICY ON HARASSMENT AND BULLYING AT WORK" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeplanter Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 "Councillor Caroline Miller also left the meeting." mmmmmm what a twisted web he has weaved, [mod](**mod edit** - such personal querying is neither necessary nor is it welcome on Shetlink)[/mod] Clarified, to some extent, in this week's "Shetland Times" - page 6 - "Caroline Miller who has family involvement with Mr Clark". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Does the SIC have an anti-bullying policy? Yes it does. It's called the"POLICY ON HARASSMENT AND BULLYING AT WORK" Does it apply to councillors as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jz Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Does it apply to councillors as well ? No, to quote from the document "A separate code of conduct regulates the behaviour of elected members;". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunnered Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 ^^Well, it's a relief to know that they have a code of conduct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 ^^ Already mentioned by Twerto a few pages back, but seems to have been ignored by the pro-Wills camp (clearly following thier leader in the "rules only apply if you want them to" school of thought) Despite the allegations could it not be said that JW is in breach of the Councillors Code of conduct in how he has gone about things? Mainly Section 3 found here -> http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2002/04/14492/2559 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 anyone else think using the police in this matter is abusing the service of the police. http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2009/09/26/sic-chief-executive-complains-to-police-about-misleading-information they both sound like little boys running to the dinner lady saying miss miss Johnny did this to me. I'm so glad that we have a highly trained professional and highly skilled counsellor. maybe we should get the next post holders from a high school. then they may only have to deal with spots and girls. and yet more moaning http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2009/09/26/three-councillors-under-investigation-over-code-of-conduct-complaints sound like a full play ground fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances144 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 He'll probably be off now on full pay for six months with a "low mood". Seriously, you can be paid and be off sick for that in the SIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestJohnDoe Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 i've heard of someone off on full pay for two years and then go back to work. I think the best option is an instant termination of contract and worry about the consequences later! probably the cheapest option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 i've heard of someone off on full pay for two years and then go back to work. I think the best option is an instant termination of contract and worry about the consequences later! probably the cheapest option. Whilst you may consider it to be the cheapest option, how would you feel if you had been accused of something then your employer decided not to investigate the allegations just because it would be cheaper not to investigate? I imagine you MIGHT be hot-footing it down to the nearest Solicitors to whack in a claim pronto! (or perhaps not?) As I mentioned earlier, if any legal action did result, then the Council's Employer's Liability Insurers would pick up the legal bills. Surely if people want the Council to behave sensibly and in an honourable fashion, then the matter should be investigated, as it would for any other member of staff (hopefully). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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