Infiltrator Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Edit: Your comment regarding "anything JW has done that has been publicly reported" has certainly got me intrigued though! I was only trying to work out where you were coming from with your comment, you said you could think of several angles how the Sun could make very colourful stories on him. I've cast my mind back over the last 6 months or so and I can't think of anything in the press relating to JW that the Sun would consider newsworthy. Maybe you should become a Sun journalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepick239 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 ...... and the manner in which it has been intertwined with another completely unlinked matter, shows just how easily the small dramas of people's everyday lives can be turned into a "scandal".We're gonna fall out again mainlander, but they are most certainly linked, all in their different ways maybe, but linked nevertheless. So, no scandal in your eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepick239 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 It's really good to see many 'new or returned posters' to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axolotl Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Surely Dr Wills describing anyone as “Vainglourious†is an incorrigble illustration of the culinary scalding receptacle calling the aqua pura agitation vat swarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainlander Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Maybe you should become a Sun journalist It might even be worth it if it got me a free holiday in Shetland over Up Helly Aa! So, no scandal in your eyes? In terms of Mr Clark's private life, then no, I see it as something that many of us will have gone through, and it will have caused pain to all concerned, including Mr Clark and Ms Miller. In terms of Judane, as far as I can tell Mr Clark has had no involvement in those decisions. So, no scandal there. Regarding the Judane situation as a whole, I thought Ghostrider's last post on the relevant thread summed up the position well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresail Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 So Clark, is having an affair with one of the persons who were given a £411,000 gift by us.This could be a coincidence. These coincidences do happen, maybe Clark didn't know that we were going to donate the money to the Millers.Another incident of coincidence was the money scandal a couple of years ago when a CEO's brother was given money without the CEO's knowledge.I am happy that "The Sun," latched onto the Clark facts or fictions, whatever means were used to bring it to their attention.Would the councillors have been brave enough to do something about it themselves? I doubt it!Maybe Clark did threaten to adjust Mr Wills' teeth. Normally such a threat is made under the influence of alcohol and with an audience present. So all that is needed is to is find out which 'pub was being used and who was with Clark at the time of the alleged threat, after all I'm pretty sure that drinking alcohol is illegal during office hours.Maybe Clark will do the honourable thing and sue The Sun and prove his innocence of all alleged misdemeanors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I think what the Sun publishes should be taken into context. In 1989 Shetland Catch shared the front page with Kylie Minogue. The story was about immigrant workers and it had no foundation. I'm not saying there's not a story here. What I'm saying is that the Sun exposure is not as important as it is being portrayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 ask the people from liverpool how good they are as reporters. i find it odd that they are more intrested in his love life than the complete balls up of a council he is in charge of. i don't see how there involvement is going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 In terms of Mr Clark's private life, then no, I see it as something that many of us will have gone through, and it will have caused pain to all concerned, including Mr Clark and Ms Miller. In terms of Judane, as far as I can tell Mr Clark has had no involvement in those decisions. So, no scandal there. Regarding the Judane situation as a whole, I thought Ghostrider's last post on the relevant thread summed up the position well. The people casting the biggest stones at Clarky while wrapped in a comforting blanket of anonymity what brave souls they are, The Sun is a gutter rag, you're right any one of us could end up in there and just takes one insidious wee toad with an axe to grind to make you look like the devil incarnate. The guy has allegedly been getting his end away with someone other than his wife, my god this must be the first time on Shetland this has happened. Mainlander is right Clark didn't hold sway on Judane so for The Sun to add that to article it was just asking its readers to make the connection without clearly showing that he had no involvement. If and it is a big if you can say that Dave Clark getting additional oats has impaired his performance as Chief Exec then by all means call for his head, the negative publicity he has received since taking up the role would certainly say he needs to be looked at again. It's just the piranhas on here new old and heavily edited taking such a holier than thou attitude that I find rather distasteful, if he can't do the job sack him, if he can let him get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 It just might be possible that Mrs Clark or a member of her family have been upset enough at the way Mr Clark is behaving ( Hell hath no fury)have given the story to the press...I for one dont think Wills is at the back of it the man seems very capable of firing his own amunition....At the end of the day Clark has to take resonsibility for his own actions...I assume that Mr Clark has a large garden as he will probably be on " Garden Leave" again very soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njugle Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 We're gonna fall out again mainlanderIt's really good to see many 'new or returned posters' to this thread. Sarcasm, or a contradiction in two posts one after the other? There's no need for anyone to "fall out," this is an internet forum to discuss things in a civilised fashion, and so it will remain. Threats of "falling out" are relatively uncivilised and unwelcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepick239 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 ^ Lighten up please, that was written in jest and I am sure she/he would know that.New Posters are good to see, or do you not agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainlander Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 So Clark, is having an affair with one of the persons who were given a £411,000 gift by us.This could be a coincidence. These coincidences do happen, maybe Clark didn't know that we were going to donate the money to the Millers. ... which 'pub was being used and who was with Clark at the time of the alleged threat Hi bresail, I notice that although you joined Shetlink in 2008, this is your first post. I hope you enjoy taking part in the discussions. Not only did Mr Clark know what was going on with Judane, he had formally advised the council that he should not be involved in decisions regarding the company. The Shetland Times of 12/09/09 states that "Mr Clark subsequently declared an interest due to his close relationship with one of the directors" - this means it was not possible for him to be involved in any of the recent decisions.http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2009/09/12/knitwear-company-rejects-bid-to-buy-premises-as-row-rumbles-on According to the Shetland Times, the alleged threat was made in "a phone call made by Mr Clark from the Great Wall restaurant in Lerwick on the evening of 9th September".http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2009/10/17/clark-poised-for-return-to-work-as-councillors-throw-out-wills-complaint I'm sure the police would have talked to the witnesses before they decided not to proceed with the case. I had it in mind that Mr Clark had at one time been quoted as saying there were five witnesses, but I can't find the quote so might well be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresail Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Thanks, for the info mainlander.I am happy that my brain can still work logically.I must also say that I have not been on this forum since I joined. I am a very outspoken person and at times I have to step back because, very often discussions can become nasty and partisan. I love discussions where we can air our views without abuse. Honesty and loyalty are very often mixed. This thread is very important because once again we have a position where an end must be found.Will it once again end in the costly solution of paying someone to go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 If there is any skeletons, his wife will now where some of them are buried.And she is better of shot of the [mod] Personal comments removed, please refer to the T&Cs for guidance on suitable content prior to posting! [/mod]And if this looks edited then it was the mods! I stand by every word. And would state it with my hands on a bible In-sist----- is relatively boringIf you get my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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