Njugle Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 It was in the news today that some GPs, particularly locums could be earning up to £250,000 a year and certainly £1000 a day. The government spokesperson claimed that they thought it quite right to pay the highest GP wages in Europe.Is that so?Why do British GP's need more pay than other European ones? What happens elsewhere? (Ex-pats?) Do we get a service befitting the £100K plus wages?Particularly after the opting out some GP's did from night cover, while getting a pay rise concurrently. Surely the reduction in hours was a 'pay rise' in itself? What do you think? I exclude specialists and perhaps even consultants from this question, but feel free to add them in! Disclaimer: I'm addressing the policy issue here, this is not a direct attack on the recipients of that wage. The Times report on GP wage levelsAnd also...Report on 'Potential 13,000 job cuts in the NHS' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I have no quibble with able and competent doctors being well rewarded for their work and expertise, although whether the level of ability and knowledge required by a GP is worthy of £100K or more, is one I'm leaving the jury out on for now. That said, I have had the unfortunate experience of having had personally to deal with GPs over time, who's attitude and competence level have consistently fallen short of meriting even minimum wage level IMHO. There is a need to link reward to the individual overall level of service that that GP provides, not just based on whatever exams they managed pass at some time. How to assess GPs in a way to do that, is, however a whole other headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceday Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 What I would say is I wish I had the British Medical Association representing me rather than my trade union as it looks like they have managed to seal an amazing deal - loads more money and, if anything, even less work. I suppose from a bargaining point of view doctors have a lot of public sympathy that other groups of workers don't have (who cries when 'faceless bureaucrats' who are not on 'the frontline' get below inflatinon pay rises or worse, are made redundant). Looks to me like the Government, and hence the taxpayer, has been well and truly done over here. I wonder whether the Shetland doctors are making this kind of money - £100K is always a lot but in London and, to a lesser extent Edinburgh, there will be a fair number of different groups earning those kind of megabucks. How many people do you think earn over 100K in Shetland? I guess these unusual public servants will stand out even more as the salmon/fishing/oil industries decline further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 A survey for GP magazine last September found that British GPs, with an average salary of just over £50,000 after tax, earned double that of family doctors in France and Spain. Is this yet another case of "media madness". To me this quote from the Times link in the original post seems more realistic and if the figure of £50k is double that of France and Spain then I think that either their doctors are seriously underpaid or they have some extra income not included in the survey. We also have to remember that the £50k average includes those who are in the £250k earnings bracket so many doctors will in fact earn less than the £50K which given the training and responsibility involved seems to me to be a reasonable renumeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceday Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 A survey for GP magazine last September found that British GPs, with an average salary of just over £50,000 after tax, earned double that of family doctors in France and Spain. Is this yet another case of "media madness". To me this quote from the Times link in the original post seems more realistic and if the figure of £50k is double that of France and Spain then I think that either their doctors are seriously underpaid or they have some extra income not included in the survey. We also have to remember that the £50k average includes those who are in the £250k earnings bracket so many doctors will in fact earn less than the £50K which given the training and responsibility involved seems to me to be a reasonable renumeration. £50K "after tax" - what is that gross, about £75K? I'd take that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Jimson Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 What about all the tossers working in the City getting paid hundreds of thousands? Aren't they a hell of a lot more worthy of disdain? And don't we, above all, need well-paid public sector jobs in order to keep our most talented doctors, nurses etc. in the NHS rather than working for private health providers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 What about all the tossers working in the City getting paid hundreds of thousands? Aren't they a hell of a lot more worthy of disdain? Yes they are Jimmy. But unfortunately their bosses are also in control of our media, and they've got to create a diversion somewhere so they can carry on robbing us all blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Look at Blogdoctor Crippen for excellent info and comments on this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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