man of kent Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I believe that if you move to a different country you should try your hardest to adopt their language and fit into their culture, after all why else would you want to move?If I lived in spain, I'd expect to live among the Spanish and to speak their language, and live by their laws, so for me I think it should work both ways. Coming in or going out. I think the Aussies have it about right, they even have a minister in charge of doing away with Political Correctness, now that's got to be a good thing?If your from Spain, your Spanish, if your from India your Indian, if your from Britain your British, if your a Shetlander, your the best...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Australia doesn't have much right actually IMO. They restrict internet, ban abortions, criminally under represent the aboriginals. Not a situation to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I believe that if you move to a different country you should try your hardest to adopt their language and fit into their culture, after all why else would you want to move?I lived in Berlin for 15 years and consequently have some opinions on this. Firstly there are indeed reasons to be located in certain places which have nothing to do with a desire to be assimilated. My work is international and I was travelling somewhere distant every month. Consequently I needed to be located near a well connected airport. Berlin is an excellent city, hence my adoption of it as a base. If I lived in spain, I'd expect to live among the Spanish and to speak their language, and live by their laws...Live by the laws yes, but language is not so clear. The situation for native English speakers is different to all others. This is not due to any kind of elitism or similar arrogance. It is simply the case that because English is currently the preferred universal language, people want to speak it with native speakers. Locals always like it when you make some kind of effort, however token, but usually it becomes clear pretty quickly that their English is infinitely better than whatever local lingo native English speakers have managed to learn. The locals then try to find a way to politely change to English in order to have best communication and get things done efficiently. In addition to the widespread desire for people to want to practice their English, it is also the case that English being the lingua-Franca makes it non-obvious which language(s) we should learn while young. In Germany or China it is obvious; English. No other language was so obviously essential for us, hence our uselessness at languages. Today I'd say that learning Chinese is the obvious choice for young people to learn. It will be very handy for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Inky Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I think the Aussies have it about right, they even have a minister in charge of doing away with Political Correctness, now that's got to be a good thing?How does that work then: is he paid to go around telling racist jokes and pinching women's bottoms ? ( "Sorry love, just doing my job. Now run along, and make me a cup of tea." ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabiaTerra Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 ^^^^ ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ertieiddabanks Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I think the Aussies have it about right, they even have a minister in charge of doing away with Political Correctness, now that's got to be a good thing? I think his name is kevin bloody wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachmill Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Firstly, I hate these scumbags. They are the face of human ignorance.The BNP just proved you right:The British National Party has pulled off a bit of a blinder by fronting an anti-immigration campaign with a poster featuring a Spitfire belonging to 303 Squadron of the RAF - the "most effective Polish squadron during the Second World War", as the Telegraph puts it. ... The BNP, however, really did insist it was aware of the plane's provenance, and spokesman Simon Derby defended it was "a symbol of the Battle of Britain and represented the economic struggle the country is facing at the moment". We believe you Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibber Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 ^ Nice one. I saw Nick Griffin and his cretins on TV once, in a pub trying to drum up support with the union flag pinned up on the back wall. If only they'd hung it the right way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 The British National Party has pulled off a bit of a blinder by fronting an anti-immigration campaign with a poster featuring a Spitfire belonging to 303 Squadron of the RAF - the "most effective Polish squadron during the Second World War", as the Telegraph puts it.A few months back I was posting here about the enormous number of Poles who were stationed in Shetland during WWII. I reckon that those who slag the current Poles resident in the UK ought to be a bit more humble and remember that the local population were happy enough to have the soldiers here when they thought they might be needed. Just because there was no attack here matters not at all. Anyway, at that time I was not able to find any figure for the number of Polish soldiers who were in Shetland. I've asked several WII'ish people (as in those people interested in that kind of thing), but nobody can point me to figures. The consensus seems to be that the total number of soldiers was between thirty and forty thousand, and "lots of those were Polish." Can anybody provide better figures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotFree Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I don't want to pay for social services, income support for economic migrants or for Politicians to bend rules to claim illegitimate expenses. I don't want to pay for banks to continue to make profits. Its understandable people joining the BNP BUT the BNP is just another facet of the fiction that is Political Parties.ALL political parties are collectives. ALL collectives end up corrupted.[Luckily I am not a member of any collective.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljey Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I don't want to pay for social services, income support for economic migrants or for Politicians to bend rules to claim illegitimate expenses. Isn't it funny how when Brits leave these shores to work elsewhere they are seen as "seeking a better life" and regarded as get-up-and-go people. But if people come to the UK for the same reason, then they are classed as "economic migrants" in the same tone of voice as many would use to refer to child rapists. Eastern Europeans that I've met have been hard working and doing the sort of jobs that many Brits turn their noses up at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Isn't it funny how when Brits leave these shores to work elsewhere they are seen as "seeking a better life" and regarded as get-up-and-go people. But if people come to the UK for the same reason, then they are classed as "economic migrants" in the same tone of voice as many would use to refer to child rapists. Eastern Europeans that I've met have been hard working and doing the sort of jobs that many Brits turn their noses up at. You have to remember we're in a recession and the jobs people just flat refused to do are now integral to British society because the people who refused to do the more menial tasks can't get a job doing anything else. It's no coincidence the rise of the Nazi party in Germany was at the same time as there was huge economic hardship. The masses can be made to believe it's a particular groups fault things are bad. The Germans blamed the Jews and the BNP can gain support by blaming migrant workers. Hopefully we have more sense than the Germans in the 1930's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljey Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 It's no coincidence the rise of the Nazi party in Germany was at the same time as there was huge economic hardship. The masses can be made to believe it's a particular groups fault things are bad. The Germans blamed the Jews and the BNP can gain support by blaming migrant workers. Hopefully we have more sense than the Germans in the 1930's. And sadly, it was also the time of the rise of Oswald Mosely's British Fascist Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 the Nazi party was mainly supported by the middle class. the unskilled workers tended to support the socialist parties. the main recruits for the brown shirts were skilled workers. this is probably why they could organise themselves better the communists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljey Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 the Nazi party was mainly supported by the middle class. the unskilled workers tended to support the socialist parties. the main recruits for the brown shirts were skilled workers. this is probably why they could organise themselves better the communists. Being supported by the middle classes did also mean that they had more funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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