Peerie Tr00ker Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 heard it in whalsay. what a fright. not used to that sort of thing here. last thing that flew over head here was john coutts taking photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeAyBee Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Disappointingly the cloud cover over Burra was too bad too see the Tornado. Had no trouble hearing it though. I wonder what it was doing here? Perhaps our Russian friends have recommenced airspace probing with their Bears and Badgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 The was a warning on Radio Orkney this morning that they were doing manoeuvres today, and would be doing low flying exercises over Orkney.Lost maybe?One group of Islands looks pretty much like an other... Only thing I could find about it's this PDF http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/current/aic/pink/EG_Circ_2009_P_089_en.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trow87 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 its a noisy sausage o a ting dats for sure! i wis in quarff an could certainly hear it, but again, dir wis plenty o clood cover, so couldna see it! wis it da sam een dat comes an pretends t land at sumburgh durin da summer, wi da big point stickin oot fae its nose? dat wis a helloa lood an aa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ... last thing that flew over head here was john coutts taking photosI did wonder about John when reading of the low level flying. I would hope that there is some kind of communication between such entirely different kinds of air users, otherwise there could have been some "interesting" results were he snapping the castle at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoni Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 as long as its not connected to this... http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1815%3Anighttime-aerosol-spraying-by-planes-reported-in-poland&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en seems to be reports of these all over the past few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 complete load of bullocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ... last thing that flew over head here was john coutts taking photosI did wonder about John when reading of the low level flying. I would hope that there is some kind of communication between such entirely different kinds of air users, otherwise there could have been some "interesting" results were he snapping the castle at the time There's actually no requirement for these two air users to be in radio contact with each other, or air traffic control for that matter, as they are in uncontrolled airspace. If they were a few miles south they would be in Sumburgh's control zone and would be obliged to make radio contact, but outside that it's a bit of a free-for-all. It would be a sphincther exercising moment if you were in a para-motor and you saw a Tornado hurtling towards you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoni Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 complete load of bullocks. is it though? given the Express are talking about a story tied up in it at the moment , its easy to dismiss when its underground media but main stream media seem to at last be publishing what many know has been happening for quite some time first link to the flu case and relevent article http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1841%3Auk-government-got-patent-for-pneumonic-plague-vaccine-in-2009&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en and second to the Express http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/140492/Million-hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu- You seem to have a very stedfast faith in the 'system' Paul and I almost envy you for that, I wish I could be as trusting I certainly wouldnt be as worried about all this as I am right now...but having read so much factual info ( not so called consipracy theories ) I cant allow myself not to question whats going on here...I've got children to think of and am not entering into anything lightly where thier health is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ^^I'd imagine that finding John smeared over one's windshield wouldn't be much fun for the pilot either. I know zilch about this, but I'd hope that there is some kind of infoline where public air users can find out if Tornados are going to be in the vicinity on a particular day. Might even be an issue for kites too if the plane was so low. Some of them can now be quite large too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckleflugga Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ... last thing that flew over head here was john coutts taking photosI did wonder about John when reading of the low level flying. I would hope that there is some kind of communication between such entirely different kinds of air users, otherwise there could have been some "interesting" results were he snapping the castle at the time There's actually no requirement for these two air users to be in radio contact with each other, or air traffic control for that matter, as they are in uncontrolled airspace. If they were a few miles south they would be in Sumburgh's control zone and would be obliged to make radio contact, but outside that it's a bit of a free-for-all. It would be a sphincther exercising moment if you were in a para-motor and you saw a Tornado hurtling towards you! Sure it'd be within Tingwalls area would it not? Our pilots are constantly switching between Sumburgh, Tingwall, Scatsta and Scottish radar when we're flying about our business. They all comment how good the cover is up here as far as radar coverage goes, must be due to the oil traffic they reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ^^I know zilch about this, but I'd hope that there is some kind of infoline where public air users can find out if Tornados are going to be in the vicinity on a particular day. Might even be an issue for kites too if the plane was so low. Some of them can now be quite large too.... last thing that flew over head here was john coutts taking photosI did wonder about John when reading of the low level flying. I would hope that there is some kind of communication between such entirely different kinds of air users, otherwise there could have been some "interesting" results were he snapping the castle at the time Sure it'd be within Tingwalls area would it not? Our pilots are constantly switching between Sumburgh, Tingwall, Scatsta and Scottish radar when we're flying about our business. They all comment how good the cover is up here as far as radar coverage goes, must be due to the oil traffic they reckon. There is an information system called Notams (notices to airmen) which is produced daily and does remark on any known activity that might affect flight safety, such as balloon flying, military exercises, navigation beacons that are broken, that sort of thing. The problem is that the fast jets can cover an enormous area of sky in a fairly short space of time, so it would be very difficult to say exactly where one is going to be at any one time, plus in uncontrolled airspace they tend to be radio silent a lot of the time, or talking on frequencies that civil air traffic can't tune into. Tingwall isn't big enough to have its own traffic zone so there is no need for them to get in touch, but it anything flying near it should give them a call out of courtesy to see if there is anything to affect.The military are notorious for doing their own thing without talking to anybody, and fair enough they have as much right to be in the sky as any civilian aircraft, but they very often see the North of Scotland as 'their' play area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siffy Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 And its Back ... just flew over weisdale .. awesome noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 And its Back ... just flew over weisdale .. awesome noiseMaybe they reckon they should have a quick blast around the territory before they can't due to wind turbines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofter Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 And its Back ... just flew over weisdale .. awesome noiseMaybe they reckon they should have a quick blast around the territory before they can't due to wind turbines slalom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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