paulb Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 how does he then get home. the ban on drinking in the work place is sound. as the boss he has to set the example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 If having a drink in the Town Hall is sooooo wrong then surely they should stop hiring it out for public functions like weddings where there is a bar involved.That is probably one of the silliest posts I've encountered on Shetlink. Where to start to explain the difference?..., nah not worth the effort. I started to type a response and gave up - likewise, don't know where to start. I think Shetlandlady is just winding us up. I know the Shetlink timings are a bit iffy after the the clock change but it looks like some folk are posting from the 1970's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acillat Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 If having a drink in the Town Hall is sooooo wrong then surely they should stop hiring it out for public functions like weddings where there is a bar involved. That is laughable! This is the CE we are talking about, .. in his place of work... which goes against policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 ....with all of Wills nit picking and annoying "ratting out" behaviour, I would not be suprised if Clark had threatened him, nor would I blame him for doing so.....even if it is deemed "outrageous" by some. I think we're not stupid enough to all admit that annoying people have made us all angry at some point. I would blame Clark for doing so, as it would be proof positive that he does not possess the levels of self-restraint, decorum and professionalism necessary for the position he holds. Given Clark's position within the SIC, there is absolutely zero room for him to act in any manner which could possibly be construed as threatening towards anyone else associated with the SIC, regardless of how annoyed, or even livid that person may make you. Letting others be able to detect your annoyance is the first step downwards from full self control and professionalism, letting others know vocally in no uncertain terms of your annoyance is the second step downwards, and leaves only one step to go, turning your annoyance in to retalitory actions. Any individual who steps down even one step from the pedestal of full self control and professionalism is of questionable calibre to hold the post of Chief Executive. This is the guy after all who is charged with handling a crisis or civil emergency competently. Total self control is essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 ^^ Absolutely spot on Ghostrider. Nice as it is to see what seems like a "moving on" headline coming from the council at last (Tunnel talk revived as councillors agree to explore third ferry option for Whalsay - Shetland Times) I really hope this isn't going to be another case of nearing a decision only to see things plod on for another few years due to more consultations etc etc. Councillor Jonathan Wills called for the committee to dismiss the new option and choose there and then which of the two other options should be pursued for Whalsay. He found no support. It's such a shame that Wills personal shenannigans probably leads to his being ignored in cases like these when he makes such sensible proposals. We need a council which will eventually actually make decisions and follow them through. If they turn out to be wrong, so be it, but better spend money on a mistake you learn from than nothing but hot air.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy parks Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 In my previous post, to the topic which seems to have been for some strange reason locked, I stated that things might be better if Mr Wills and Mr Robinson were to be removed. There was a reply that having such a thought suggested that I must be either a fool or on crack. Can I categorigally state here and now that I am neither. Someone also suggested that I might live outwith these islands. Well that may be so, or I could be Morgon Goodlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 ....or I could be Morgon Goodlad. Nah, he would know how to spell his own name. Or at least I'd hope he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepick239 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Someone also suggested that I might live outwith these islands. Well that may be so, or I could be Morgon Goodlad. ....or I could be Morgon Goodlad. Nah, he would know how to spell his own name. Or at least I'd hope he would.?Well now, maybe there are two Goodlads....One lives outwith the Islands and is known as MorGON.The other one reckons he is in the Ness and spells his name MorGAN. But which one was the Chief Executive, or was there job-share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Well now, maybe there are two Goodlads....One lives outwith the Islands and is known as MorGON.The other one reckons he is in the Ness and spells his name MorGAN. There's damn little good about this lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Well now, maybe there are two Goodlads....One lives outwith the Islands and is known as MorGON.The other one reckons he is in the Ness and spells his name MorGAN. But which one was the Chief Executive, or was there job-share? You missed one icepick239 Moron Goodlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepick239 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Well now, maybe there are two Goodlads....One lives outwith the Islands and is known as MorGON.The other one reckons he is in the Ness and spells his name MorGAN. But which one was the Chief Executive, or was there job-share? You missed one icepick239Moron Goodlad Mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trout Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Keep this thread on topic and to any factual points you might have or want to make. The continued dirge in here is pushing this thread close to being closed. If there's nothing of use to say then don't say it at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandlady Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 taking the post back to topic and to some of my previous unliked posts. I was simply stating an opinion and asking for people to tell me what Clark has actually done wrong. As far as I'm aware there have been the two ALLEGED incidents, 1 drinking and 1 threatening, and last time I looked you were innocent until proven guilty not the other way round. I would like to think that the public would give this man a chance to do his job before condemning him for doing it wrong. I dont see that he's had a chance to prove himself yet and believe everyone should get atleast that chance. I think it would be helpful if people on shetlink would stick to voicing their own opinions rather than concentrating on tearing other peoples opinions to shreds, its not constructive and mainly just rude. Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if it is different from your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainlander Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I agree with you, shetlandlady, and have become very demoralised by how my posts are often met with personal insults just because my view is different from a lot of others who post. I don't feel the need to abuse those who disagree with me, and don't see why insults or mocking remarks should be considered an acceptable response to any post. As you say, it is just rude. Regarding your earlier post: "alleged" threatening phone call put aside, what else is so "outrageous" that Clark has actually done so far? Hiring his crony to undertake the first significant task he was entrusted with, then delivering an allegedly incomplete result, and allegedly employing creative accounting in the process, was somewhat short of ideal to understate the fact. So was the circumstancial removal of his immediate subordinate, and named rival, from his position, allegedly in contravention of employment legislation and on questionable authority. As far as I have been able to find out, Mr Clark only recommended the consultant referred to, and the council were totally at liberty to appoint someone else. If the council were unhappy with the consultant's conclusions, they could of course take action to recover fees paid to him. Despite the early claims made by Mr Shannon, his friends and family, over the weeks it became clear that it was extremely unlikely any employment legislation had been breached. There had been an error in procedure, but as Mr Clark had consulted both the council legal department and the leader of the council before taking any action, that error was not his. I feel that a lot of the problem is that the opinions of Mr Clark's opponents have been aired in the media again and again and again, which has left a lot of people thinking that things are facts which are only the allegations and personal feelings of those opponents. The comment in Audit Scotland's report that: “At the time of writing this report we have become aware of some high profile relationship issues involving the new chief executive and members. There is a risk that these issues will adversely impact on the council’s ability to deliver its objectives.†would seem a timely reminder to some councillors to concentrate on the business of the council rather than personal issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharny Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 councilors are all useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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