icepick239 Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 The longer this apparent shambles goes on, the worse it becomes.Each day seems to raise new questions.Is it a fact, that certain people are panicking, while others are maybe sunning themselves?Was it a fact, that others may have wanted this to be kept quiet and handled/sorted at a future date? How much Rent did Hodge pay direct to Judane and what happened to the money? (I refer to the fact that no monies have been received by SIC in six years)Mrs Miller states that her Register is correct, so wonder who she asked to confirm this view?This problem sits astride two Administrations and two Councils.Audit Scotland, are they aware of the this ongoing 'boil' or have they missed it?Now the Money:2.3 Million as an Insurance claim.Are the Council really that naive to believe that Judane would win this?It was a small Company that was/went down and the only value in it was the land & Buildings.Where would they have suffered a Loss of that magnitude or any loss in fact?What is the Writ filed for?Doesn't the SIC carry Professional Indemnity Cover in the case of surmised Balls-ups?Mrs Miller should never have stood for Council, while she was aware of the ongoing problems (Financial & Legal) between Judane and SIC. It is hoped Mr Riise and Mr Grant can move quickly in order to satisfy the growing interest and anger over this whole sorry affair.The Solicitors and Barristers are working overtime, both for and against in this situation, that's where the money is going.Lot's of Litigation can only mean badly run organisations.Who needs to be a Banker mmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trout Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Now the Money:2.3 Million as an Insurance claim.Are the Council really that naive to believe that Judane would win this? One must potentially read between the lines here, no? Should the proper due diligence be documented and carried out from the word go should this whole sorry debackle have reached this cresent? What really has gone on between a planning and a legal department in a local authority to have caused ... this! ? The barrel appears to be rolling 'over' the 'wrong' way here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 So, just to throw a little more diversity in to this "milgarge", as da auld een's would have described it. The SDT. It is a SIC created "Trust", and most often described in the media as an "arm's lenght" trust of the SIC. Having plundered around the (badly dated) SDT site a bit, I've not found anything that makes it clear whether the SDT considers itself a wholly "independent" SIC created trust, despite almost all of the Trustees being councillors, viz the Charitable Trust, or only a semi-"Independent" of the SIC trust ie. shares some resources etc in common. Anyone know which is their official line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 ^^The only "line" they got is the one they spin trying to make folk believe that it should remain the way it is or still with a majority of councillors as trustees. Alternatively, the "line" is a rope and it gonna get them hanged! (Can't wait!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoogler Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 ^^^Wrong. Once again see previous posts. SDT, as it was, is nothing to do with the Charitable Trust. At present my understanding is the affairs of the SDT have been transferred back wholly into the SIC Economic Development Unit. Until circa 2 years ago the SDT consisted of 4 SIC members and 4 appointed Trustees. Folllowing other spectacular misanters, not least Smyril, the SIC decided that the full council should be once again the body that controlled 'development' funding. Again, for clarity, the 'development' funding comes from the Reserve Fund and is nothng to do with the Charitable Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 ^^ So what you're saying then is the SDT isn't in fact an "arm's length" anything, its wholly a council department, or at least a division or sub-division of the council. Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoogler Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Yes, exactly. I don't think that the transformation back to being wholly a department of SIC has completely taken place yet, but it would explain why the SDT website is rather dated, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 The SDT funds originally came from Reserve Fund money that was paid to the Charitable Trust to enable them to make riskier loans. The Reserve Fund money efeectively guaranteed the loan capital. It was Morgan Goodlad who decided that the SDT should be a separate organisation with its own staff. At the first hint of poor performance the councillors grabbed it back into the SIC to ensure their control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mogman Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Without wishing to give anything away, you may like to make your own copies of the following Shetland News stories, just in case they suddenly vanish from the website:- http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/2009/December/news/Call%20for%20police%20probe%20into%20Judane.htm http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/2009/December/news/Complaint%20submitted%20about%20Caroline%20Miller.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainlander Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 If (as appears to be implied by mogman) the stories are having to be removed, it seems likely that they do not portray the truth accurately. I think I might just wait and see what facts emerge over the weeks or months rather than save possibly misleading stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 If (as appears to be implied by mogman) the stories are having to be removed, it seems likely that they do not portray the truth accurately. I think I might just wait and see what facts emerge over the weeks or months rather than save misleading stories. or someone is being investigated by the police and charges are likely. if the millers are trying to gag the papers were are they getting the money from for expensive lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddtablet Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 If (as appears to be implied by mogman) the stories are having to be removed, it seems likely that they do not portray the truth accurately. Really I am content that the truth, and nothing but the truth will come out !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogman Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 If (as appears to be implied by mogman) the stories are having to be removed, it seems likely that they do not portray the truth accurately.Sometimes people, who feel threatened by the truth, try to prevent the truth being revealed in the public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 What is the truth about this whole sorry affair?. Chris Hodge seems to be the big loser perhaps followed by the people of Shetland. Maybe the Millers are still losers and maybe the people of Shetland are also losing as the former Judane factory could be in use providing jobs for Shetlanders or maybe even a Lidl store offering low cost shopping for Shetland's poor. Let's hope that some sort of solution is possible in the new year and meanwhile civil war does not break out on Bressay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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