Judane

[hoosn]

"come the revolution" lol , am sure you will get your peerie note books out n dob in all the "bad boys" , short of that i am at a loss to know what to do. Some get n some dont is how UK has always been and more especially scotland n up this way. Do you no understand how it aa REALLY works ? At the end of the day you are asassinating a family because a market collapsed, how brave is that ?

[Stirrer]

"come the revolution" lol , am sure you will get your peerie note books out n dob in all the "bad boys" , short of that i am at a loss to know what to do. Some get n some dont is how UK has always been and more especially scotland n up this way. Do you no understand how it aa REALLY works ? At the end of the day you are asassinating a family because a market collapsed, how brave is that ?

 

With an atitude like this, I suspect that this person is either a professional knitter or a salmon farmer

[paulb]

he is a bit on the forgive and here is another hundred grand brigade. in his willing desire to tug the old forelock at his social betters he forgets this is not their money its ours. its what is going to be needed in the future to maintain some of our services.

 

the investments are just that they are not donations to keep certain people in new cars,boats,house or holidays

[Ghostrider]

"come the revolution" lol , am sure you will get your peerie note books out n dob in all the "bad boys" , short of that i am at a loss to know what to do. Some get n some dont is how UK has always been and more especially scotland n up this way. Do you no understand how it aa REALLY works ? At the end of the day you are asassinating a family because a market collapsed, how brave is that ?

 

A revolution is just about the only thing that could redeem the contents of the Town Hall eenoo. .... IMHO.

 

Yes, we know how the UK works, and we know about how a whiff of power affects the Scots, and how when some Shetlanders get a little power they feel compelled to ape the very worst of the Scots habits.

 

That may be how its been working for a while, and it may be how its still trying to work, but it needn't continue if enough folk don't want it to. The Scots and their ways have had their fit pitten a' bawnd afore, it can be done again.

 

If a family are being assassinated, its because they are publically showing a distinct lack of responsibility towards the sum of public funds entrusted in their care.

[hoosn]

"come the revolution" lol , am sure you will get your peerie note books out n dob in all the "bad boys" , short of that i am at a loss to know what to do. Some get n some dont is how UK has always been and more especially scotland n up this way. Do you no understand how it aa REALLY works ? At the end of the day you are asassinating a family because a market collapsed, how brave is that ?

 

A revolution is just about the only thing that could redeem the contents of the Town Hall eenoo. .... IMHO.

 

Yes, we know how the UK works, and we know about how a whiff of power affects the Scots, and how when some Shetlanders get a little power they feel compelled to ape the very worst of the Scots habits.

 

That may be how its been working for a while, and it may be how its still trying to work, but it needn't continue if enough folk don't want it to. The Scots and their ways have had their fit pitten a' bawnd afore, it can be done again.

 

If a family are being assassinated, its because they are publically showing a distinct lack of responsibility towards the sum of public funds entrusted in their care.

well pitten tagidder, an well said, but this is definately a neverending circle this thread, and ive little more to say, except the SDT money is the responsibility of its trustees and practically THEIR money while they have total control o it, bein their responsibility its them the aggressors should be approaching directly, or perhaps the individuals they have a problem wi. If local businesses take the p**s out the SDT then who showed them how to do it? there lies yer culprit

[paulb]

so it your banks money. no they have a duty of care to insure that the funds are protected. it is never their money and unless the debter is bankrupt then they owe the money. i agree that they should be held to account for all the lost millions.

[hoosn]

if am no mistaken the banks went out e**e too ...... , and the fat cats who put them out the er** still took handsome millions for the back pocket , think thats cost/costin us more as the Millers betting on unreliable markets , along the same lines? no?

[Ghostrider]

....the SDT money is the responsibility of its trustees and practically THEIR money while they have total control o it, bein their responsibility its them the aggressors should be approaching directly....

 

Exactly! However, one person chewing at the SDT Trustees isn't likely to change very much very quickly, a weight of opinion and support is needed to change public affairs.

 

While Shetlink may be seen by some as nothing more than a convenient medium to rant and vent on anonymously, its more than that. Its the nearest we've got to a public meeting place where anyone and everyone can speak their mind (T&C's being enforced by omnipresent Mods permitting ).

 

I can think of no better place to bring up local issues and point out the positives/negatives of them, and get a reasonable cross section straw poll of the Shetland public's real opinion of them.

 

Without at least a certain amount of public support, chewing at the SDT Trustees or anyone else about anything else is wholly a waste of time and energy. The points made, and the level of interest (or lack thereof) to any one thread IMHO is as reliable an indicator of reality, and probable support (of lack thereof) that one might expect if the moves suggested in the thread were actually made.

 

For example, to me it beggars belief how anyone can have the slightest confidence in the current council CE and elected leadership after the hole they've dug themselves in to, and I'd both support any moves to oust the lot, and would have expected almost total support from teh Shetland public for any such moves. However, having read some of the responses given on the appropriate thread here, its clear that while many probably would support such moves, both CE and leadership also still enjoy a significant level of support too and it would not be the cake walk that it might have at first appeared.

[hoosn]

Shetland fok are Shetland fok , and are all behind you til the end n vanish, is one thing ive learned. SDT being point in case are elected by who? and who is a fit and proper person to cast a vote? a lot of massive topics spin off this one. like they say "where theres a will theres somebody dead" and the same applies to SDT, lot of vultures wheres theres millions of pounds, awfull glad am nothing to do wi SDT ,its trustees, its loans, or its beneficiaries, salmon farms or knitwear. I still maintain that individuals, whoever they are in this situation should no be publicly slagged n humiliated. Is it no better to put together a "generalisation" of where mistakes have been made as picking on folk , didnt think that was the Shetland way ?

[Guest Anonymous]

Shetland fok are Shetland fok , and are all behind you til the end n vanish, is one thing ive learned. SDT being point in case are elected by who? and who is a fit and proper person to cast a vote? a lot of massive topics spin off this one. like they say "where theres a will theres somebody dead" and the same applies to SDT, lot of vultures wheres theres millions of pounds, awfull glad am nothing to do wi SDT ,its trustees, its loans, or its beneficiaries, salmon farms or knitwear. I still maintain that individuals, whoever they are in this situation should no be publicly slagged n humiliated. Is it no better to put together a "generalisation" of where mistakes have been made as picking on folk , didnt think that was the Shetland way ?

 

The Shetland way has, and always will be to criticise, belittle, and destroy, by words, actions, or any other deed, the self belief that any person can possibly have in their self. That bit is simple.

Judane got public money, and things went wrong for them. As far as I can see there is no proof that they do not intend to repay that money. So I agree, why should they be publicly slagged off by a bunch of brain dead idiots on a forum.

Shetlink is slowly sinking into a cesspit with criticism of an individual like this. Dammit, you'll all be having a go at me next.. (next post, most likely)

 

There is something wrong with the Judane situation, but until anybody can prove otherwise, I think it's best that we assume the only real problem is that the situation is being handled by a bunch of solicitors. Which means it's in a bigger potential f up situation than the Whalsay ferry terminal.

[hoosn]

well said that man Rasmie, although i thought it was a bit better as that wi Shetlan fok, thought they were reasonably humane ?

[bug]

Lads, good or bad, the millers thresh the graines (sic)

 

It surely will be the first time in history that the bill will have to be double sided (or is that two-faced?)

[hoosn]

unless you know them personally and individually i cant see how or why this level of personal insults, it doesnt demonstrate a great intelligence

[bug]

the folks running the windmill will eventually make the dough

[Guest Anonymous]

To put a personal perspective on this subject, although I'm not sure if that's allowed under the T&Cs, I've known the "Mr" behind Judane since I was 14.

I don't think he ever liked me, and I had reason, on more than one occasion, not to like him. But, putting that behind me, and moving on, I see absolutely no reason why him, or his family, should be persecuted by posters on Shetlink.

Especially when we have such a beautiful bullseye as Davie Clark to aim our unspent vitriol at.