Radarman Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Anybody else heard from the grapevine or otherwise the story about "a certain individual (moderator edit)"* signing pre-season for Thistle and then being offered a job by the Delting manager on condition he sign for Delting? Rumour has that he did sign, which is of course against SFA rules. The Thistle manager is refusing to let him go... and so it's quite a pickle. I personally think Bobby (thistle manager) is quite right to refuse to let him go, there is a proper way to go about this, which has happened in the past. As for offering jobs on condition of playing for a certain club, well thats just wrong! I heard a yarn that the same situation happened south with the outcome being that the player and the 2nd club were banned for a season, should that be the case here? The Shetland association is also governed by the SFA. *the name was removed as the allegations are unproven - see the terms and conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 With the league re-structuring and all that trying to make Shetland Football 'more professional' or whatever, the letter of the law should be applied here. If he signed pre-season for the jags, so he is their player by contract there is no way they should let him go. If he then subsequently signed for Delting on the grounds of getting a job out off it, i.e. basically being tapped up, he & Delting could and should be in a lot of bother. With "a certain individual (moderator edit)"* having played Highland League for Cove Rangers he should be familiar with player registrations etc at a more organised level than Shetland football. It'll be intersting to see how the association handle this but with Delting winning the first trophy of the season and no trophy there to be presented the association couldn't organise a knees up in a brewery. *the name was removed as the allegations are unproven - see the terms and conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriebryan Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Just a wee note folks. Tread carefully on this one. Its a public forum so unproven accusations about individuals need to be handeled very carefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'd be more interested to see how they deal with the fighting in clickamin after the under 16's boxing match er sorry football match beteen spurs and delting.. all though I do find the rumour of it was 30 toonies against six yokles quite amusing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I heard the spurs boys came out of the changeing room and got a right pasteing, one boy was concused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 apologies for the usage of a 'certain individuals' name. will take it onboard for future contributions to hot topics of debate. Will just add though the accusations are against Delting as well, should that not be edited also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Anybody else heard from the grapevine or otherwise the story about "a certain individual (moderator edit)"* signing pre-season for Thistle and then being offered a job by the Delting manager on condition he sign for Delting? Rumour has that he did sign, which is of course against SFA rules. The Thistle manager is refusing to let him go... and so it's quite a pickle. I personally think Bobby (thistle manager) is quite right to refuse to let him go, there is a proper way to go about this, which has happened in the past. As for offering jobs on condition of playing for a certain club, well thats just wrong! I heard a yarn that the same situation happened south with the outcome being that the player and the 2nd club were banned for a season, should that be the case here? The Shetland association is also governed by the SFA. *the name was removed as the allegations are unproven - see the terms and conditions Must a been a damned good job aore hed play The Delts !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Regarding this alleged cross signing, it would be a pity for Shetland football. Delting are a country mile (how long is the Kames?) ahead of most sides anyway as the past few years have shown. Strengthening while weakening a challenger is not good. Another point, have Delting decided to widen the net from their own Parish for players now, if so that is also a pity given as they have a big pool of "local" players. On the rammy at Clickimin. If any allegations are found to be true re any player or club, these boys need to be dealt with severely and I don't buy the "outside our jurisdiction" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 It'll be intersting to see how the association handle this but with Delting winning the first trophy of the season and no trophy there to be presented the association couldn't organise a knees up in a brewery. *the name was removed as the allegations are unproven - see the terms and conditions Nothing for the association to deal with I would guess, unless the said player appeals or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 wheesht wrote: Nothing for the association to deal with I would guess, unless the said player appeals or something? I'd say there is quite a lot for the association to deal with, I think you've missed the point. If the said player signs for Delting without agreeing termination of contract with the Jags beforehand then they'd have a player in breach of contract and also a registration to process for the said player but for a different club when he's already registered to play for Thistle for the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'd say there is quite a lot for the association to deal with, I think you've missed the point. If the said player signs for Delting without agreeing termination of contract with the Jags beforehand then they'd have a player in breach of contract and also a registration to process for the said player but for a different club when he's already registered to play for Thistle for the upcoming season. Not as I understand it Mr, Mrs, Miss or Ms Anon. The player signed for one club, fact? Then signed a form for the second club (we must assume Delting didn't know about the first form). This second form willl not be accepted by the football association as legit. If Thistle won't let him go then that is the end of the matter I think. His choice, football for Thistle or thumb twiddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Surely if they receive a legitimate application for the player to play for delting, when he is already registered for thistle, then they have a player who wishes his registration for thistle to be scrapped and his new one processed? Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Surely if they receive a legitimate application for the player to play for delting, when he is already registered for thistle, then they have a player who wishes his registration for thistle to be scrapped and his new one processed? Fact. No. The rules state that the team he has signed for (Thistle) have to agree to releasing him. He signed for Thistle as I understand it, played for them and has now also signed for the Delts which he is not free to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 As Radarman said in his first post 'I heard a yarn that the same situation happened south with the outcome being that the player and the 2nd club were banned for a season, should that be the case here? The Shetland association is also governed by the SFA.' If he is not 'free' to do it (sign for another club), surely he has committed an offence and therefore should receive some kind of ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 If he is not 'free' to do it (sign for another club), surely he has committed an offence and therefore should receive some kind of ban? As I understand it the rules locally do not allow for a team to be banned, that is a unlikely scenario anywhere (site, was it Livingston last season?). The player has commited an offence, and even if Thistle relent, I don't feel they should, then he will most likely get a ban of around 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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