Holm O Sanik Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Are tunnels the best option as transport links for our isles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunnered Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ^^Surely that's for the people living on each of the islands to decide. Would they want their island turned into a virtual extension of the mainland? Or are they more content with a certain level of remoteness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandRover S2a Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Surely we should have a choice of not having ANY tunnels in the Poll.I can't see any of the Islands being FOR a tunnel, no Isles cars for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Fair Isle - It would shorten the boat trip, in fact, keep going, lose the boat entirely, and with any luck we might get the Orkneymen to pay half of the bits needed from North Ronaldsay across the Pentland Firth. Seriously though, tunnels have to work out the best value for money in the end, but its up to the folk living on the isles whether they want to become a mainland extension, or have to live with possibly a much lesser service at some point in the future should funds not be available to maintain the status quo. From a purely logical POV Yell Sound should be where the first one goes, as it serves the greatest area, but logic isn't worth much if the practicalities of doing it or inadequacies of the existing facilities on another route, is making common sense scream out to do somewhere else first. To Bressay, being the shortest and assumedly least expensive would be good for doing a "trial run" ie. discover the pitfalls and learn from mistakes with the minimum risk, but does Bressay want to be swallowed up by the toon, as that will be what inevitably happens in time with as easy access as there is just now to Gulberwick and Quarff etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Fair Isle - It would shorten the boat trip, in fact, keep going, lose the boat entirely, and with any luck we might get the Orkneymen to pay half of the bits needed from North Ronaldsay across the Pentland Firth. . No chance, any external tunnel fae Shetland should be heading east straight to Bergen!. And the norskies would probably try it for wis!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ^^ I'm up for it. Understanding Norwegian can only be better that trying and failing to understand and communicate with your average Doric speaker or Glaswegian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Having lived on a very small island that was serviced by the Calmac ferry(Ro Ro type) if all worked well.The cost of travelling was one big factor that had to be taken into account having said that we had the peace of mind that comes with being totally cut of from 6pm till 7.30 am and no ferries on a Sunday. The couincil were the ones that decided to build a causway accross and that resulted in the Ferrymen losing their jobs and homes as they were tied hoses and absolutely no privacy as folk would be driving round at all times of the night ...I am not against progress but some things are better left alone..If it works and it is not broken then why change it? A whole way of life was lost when the ferries went...You done a lot of socialising and catching up while waiting for the boat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarhellja Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Its no use to be talking about tunnels 'e noo. While these may be the most cost effective in the VERY long term, there is no money just now. If and when there are tunnels, there may very well be tolls along with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ^^ I'm up for it. Understanding Norwegian can only be better that trying and failing to understand and communicate with your average Doric speaker or Glaswegian. Ha,ha ,so true, so true..... I was in Norway for the first time last year and it just blew me away. Amazing, amazing country. We could do with a dose of yon here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarhellja Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Yeah and no tolls, but then Norway is now the third richest country in the world. Mind, that was not aye the case. Rural Norway was as poor as rural Shetland, Orkney or Scotland. Huge numbers of Norwegians emigrated to U.S. Only forty years ago, King Olav travelled by public transport, and that was trams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastditch Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Should build one to Whalsay now as they are having to spend almost half the amount of a tunnel in the near future anyway. Money which will have to be spent again in another 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddrun Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 The history of the King on the tram goes back to the oil crisis in the early 70's....Private cars were banned from the streets some weekends in the winter, but the King needed his weekly skiing....so he took the lokal tram out of Oslo, and he payed the fare too!! But back to tunnels....we have them everywhere now, and it seems like they make longer and longer, and deeper and deeper tunnels every year.....Shetland can just look to Norway to find the failures.....some of the early under sea tunnels were horrible, and they leaked !!! But now I think they have learned !!We have got rid of a lot of ferries that way, and in bad weather they are much more useful than bridges....but it's sad for the tourists -- not much beauty in a tunell My Shetlander has learned to like them, but he was a bit scared the first times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeunson Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Should build one to Whalsay now as they are having to spend almost half the amount of a tunnel in the near future anyway. Money which will have to be spent again in another 15 years. Can we no just build a ferry that lasts more than 15 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddrun Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 It should be possible....we had a local one that lasted for 58 years !!!!!! http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/more_og_romsdal/1.4387762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damissinlink Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 am no against da new ferrys or a tunnel there are plus points and negatives for both, whit i am against is the wye the council goes aboot dir busniess and the wye they spend far more money as is needed the yell sound ferries is a good example, and yuns whit there wantin tae pit tae whalsay its all gitten oot o hand there spendin money dats gonna be needed in da future. dir all needin a dam good shack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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