JohanofNess Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Presumably Johan and Ghostrider believe that Danish subsidies to the Faroe islands should be cancelled forthwith. Why should the Faroes be subsidised?. It used to fend for itself before just like Shetland did so why does it rely on it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Presumably Johan and Ghostrider believe that Danish subsidies to the Faroe islands should be cancelled forthwith. Yes, especially if they're running at anything like the spend per head they are for the thinnest populated small isles here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyr Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Presumably Johan and Ghostrider believe that Danish subsidies to the Faroe islands should be cancelled forthwith. The Danish subsidies to Faeroe and Greenland are most fitting as that country has enjoyed revenue from those places for centuries without giving anything back. Resources have been moved to Copenhagen for centuries in stead of being invested in local development. The Danish government has seen the need to right that wrong and assumed the moral responsibility for bringing G and F up to the same level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derick Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 ^^ My negativity towards Scots is a result of a whole lot more than just the last 38 years, or one act (ie the HIDB) can rectify. For approx the first 450 years of their involvement with us, they seemed incapable of seeing Shetland and Shetlanders as anything other than to be used, abused and plundered. From what I've seen coming out of Edinburgh these last few years, I see no reason to suspect they see us as being any different today. You'll laekly no be wantin da package o financial help fur da fysheen industry, announced by da Baaaad Fok in Edinburra. Oh, Land of Hope and Glory, dee dee- dee dee-dee zzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 ^^ My negativity towards Scots is a result of a whole lot more than just the last 38 years, or one act (ie the HIDB) can rectify. For approx the first 450 years of their involvement with us, they seemed incapable of seeing Shetland and Shetlanders as anything other than to be used, abused and plundered. From what I've seen coming out of Edinburgh these last few years, I see no reason to suspect they see us as being any different today. You'll laekly no be wantin da package o financial help fur da fysheen industry, announced by da Baaaad Fok in Edinburra. Oh, Land of Hope and Glory, dee dee- dee dee-dee zzzzzzzzzzzz ......right now Shetland has a lot that Scotland wants a slice of, especially if they have independence for themselves in mind. If they go independent they want us with them, not going independent ourselves or going English, and taking the fish, oil etc that's in our waters with us, so they have to keep us sweet and make themselves look like the good guy in our eyes to have any hope of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 It's instructive to compare the contributions by Freyr and Ghostrider. One is a social democrat of a well-known Scandinavian type; the other a Shetland Liberal Conservative. One breed gets things done; the other sits on da restin shair girnin fae mornin to night ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 ^^ Hmm...I don't know about the liberal bit, I always found their philosophies a bit wishy washy and nondescript. I can live with being called a Tory, I've been called much worse very often I'm sure, and I've never had any problem with a bit of healthy capitalism. the other sits on da restin shair girnin fae mornin to night ... An a most splendid place and mood ta prakteece an air a capitalism athin he is too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmalade Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Not so sure you're being cynical there. Has the SNP not said from day one that if Shetland wants its independance, they can have it, but they're keeping the oil. Just like everybody else, they're not in the business of looking after our interests, theyre in the business of looking after their own That's because Scotland can't be independent of the UK without the oil from Shetland, I think . I don't like all this splitting up. The more countries united together the better. However I don't like the opposing regulations we get from it. Some of those ridiculous UN regulations. I'm just being awkward now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 That's why I said Liberal Capitalist. Like Mrs Thatcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foords_Chocolates Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 If ever there was a good reason for independance from Scotland, it has been on the news all day - Glasgow Rangers football 'fans'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derick Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 That's because Scotland can't be independent of the UK without the oil from Shetland, I think . I dunna agree - Iceland haes nae oil. Denmark haes nae oil. Finland haes nae oil. Sweden haes nae oil. Ireland haes nae oil. Dey do weil and Scotland wid do perfectly fine wi-oot Shetlan. However, Shetlan optin oot a Scotland an becomin an offshore pairt o England (becis dat's whit dis 'Shetland Independence' an 'Crown-dependency' twaddle is aa aboot), wid be a disaster fur Sheltan. Sit on da boat ta Newcastle? Marvellous. England wid love you til da oil wis feeneeshed, da very day efiter it did, you wid be on your owin. Dear short fat picts set your nordic fantasies awa: Shetlan wis pairt o Scotland afore Scotland even existed! If ever there was a good reason for independance from Scotland, it has been on the news all day - Glasgow Rangers football 'fans'. Mmmm - aa draped ida Onion Flag as usual. Fitba should be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 However, Shetlan optin oot a Scotland an becomin an offshore pairt o England (becis dat's whit dis 'Shetland Independence' an 'Crown-dependency' twaddle is aa aboot), wid be a disaster fur Sheltan. Sit on da boat ta Newcastle? Marvellous. England wid love you til da oil wis feeneeshed, da very day efiter it did, you wid be on your owin. Explain the Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Bermuda, Falklands, Tristan da Cunha et al then....especially the Falklands and Tristan da Cunha. Sendin haf idda Wheen's Navy haf gaets arood da wurilt ta keek furt da neebirs dat tocht dey cud cum an bide wi da first een, an gyaan is far ta poo fok oot anunder da ess an haet cols dir hill wis spewin upoa dem, den pittim dem up fur a while, an den runnin dem hame an settin dem upoa dir feet igyen, wi da tidder een, seems na muckle laek laevin fok ta fare upoa dir ain ta me. If coorse, een wis forty odd yeer syn syne and da tidder een is a whartir sentry ago, an things irna whit dey wir wint ta be avaa noo-a-daes ir dey, auld Inglin is hed Scotties roolin ir noo fur mair is da last ten yeer, so wi dat gyaan on, du micht weel be fairly richt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derick Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Explain the Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Bermuda, Falklands, Tristan da Cunha et al then....especially the Falklands and Tristan da Cunha. Dunna be sae sure. Ascension islanders 'betrayed by Britain'http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2006/02/13/wascen13.xml Diego Garcia: remembering paradise losthttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/835963.stm Man is owre weill, I reydir laek da place - but dinna lippen ta geng fur a walk aboot da banks in a tax haven fur da super-rich! Channel Isles - mmm. Jersey precisely shaas whit wey a place can be owre peerie ta be democratic. Or safe fur its citizens. Haut de la Garenne, my dears? Falkands?http://www.ironbritannia.net/iron_brit1.pdf(a socialist view, but no wi-oot wit, here an dere) eteracetera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshagger Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Channel Isles - mmm. Jersey precisely shaas whit wey a place can be owre peerie ta be democratic. Or safe fur its citizens. Haut de la Garenne, my dears? aye aye dessy boy an of course nae bairn has ever been abused in utopian scotia/alba/caladonia.if I could be arsed I would get you loads of examples of child abuse and murder in that lovely {by the way, do you realise I tried to swear here?}ry an this according to your reasoning would justify scotland never being indipendant.get a grip o desel boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 How is the campaign for an independent Shetland, by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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