canuck Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 What does The Artist have to do with this thread? I would enjoy a discussion re chemtrails. Discussion being the operative word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I think they both have a soft spot for each other. Some peat bog somewhere abouts. Anyhow, when, during mid summer and at night, the trails can seem quite magical as they are still lit from the sun.The colours can be noteworthy.But it is still polution, like a oilspill, the rainbow is quite spectacular, as its calming fx on the sea. But, the trails can blot the sky, and are high altitude clouds, sunlight must be refracted within the water particals and hence not reach the planet.Without really reading anything or posting links, I, as with most folk go with what they can see, though some interesting facts can emerge.The trails probably do not directly pollute the Thule, and will be blown about abit.I used to live near Heathrow, and it was so quiet, when I moved to Greenwich, you couldnot hear yourself speak and the car windows if left a while had a oily sheen about them.As far as blocking out some of the sun, they must do, but I don't think they lower light levels, you could say they are un natural clouds, then tho it is like us sayin we are un natural. We are natural, so are our actions, though our actions do not always complement what we see around us, so we may be anti natural, who knows. Anyhow, you could always blame this guy and these companies.... http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn149/shetlandpeat/whittleandonwayhome01-09001.jpg imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibber Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 What does The Artist have to do with this thread? I would enjoy a discussion re chemtrails. Discussion being the operative word.That's what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I don't know what to think re chemtrails. I do know that the few times I have been at the location of a so called chemtrail buster and looked up to the sky there were no chemtrails or for that matter contrails to be seen. Coincidence perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 What does The Artist have to do with this thread?That's what he's talking about. I don't think Prince is exactly the spokesman that most folk who are aware of chemtrails, would direct you to.No, more likely this is best thing you could come up to troll with, in your usual cheap and desperate attempts to distract from whatever issue I post on.Whassa matter; couldn't you find a youtube with Nick Griffin talking about them. Then you'ld really be in your element, eh!. If you want to be useful, bright boy; perhaps you have an explanation to why things like "chemtrails" are listed as an exotic weapon in the 2001 "space preservation act" or why you find the whole idea unlikely, despite the government spraying many toxins over our heads between 1940 and 1979 in bio warfare tests. A story which only got out, over two decades later under the freedom of information act. Do you think there is no such thing as weather modification technology? or is it the idea that these things may be already underway, unpalatable to you. If they wanted to know the pros and cons of spraying huge quantities of aluminium and barium, do you think the government would give you a ring to ask if it was ok with you first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFusion Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 how do you explain the jets that leave no contrails then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wing commander Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Hello Shetland ~ greetings from Land's End, Cornwall The very same sort of planes referred to earlier in this thread fly over here too ~ I watched them at about 17.10 today and was curious enough to begin a search in to what they might be. The description is identical in every way, from size, formation and 'con trail' characteristics; these 2 were white and unmarked. They were heading for the USA. I've seen unmarked white aircraft at Brize Norton and there's all sorts of theories about on't net about what they are / are not and what they may/ may not be doing. Just thought y'ad like to know about these two. If I find any more info I'll post it. Cheers Wing Co. P.S. We also have crazy 'con trails' down here too ~ they slowly spread accross the sky and obscure the sun. They're very different from ordinary 'con trails'. Funny, eh? Are 'THEY' trying to protect the atmosphere from penetrating harmful cosmic rays? Is it connected with fighting global warming? Is it mind control? Who knows ~ but if stuff is being sprayed we have a right to know, IMHO. It's not unheard of for research establishments/ governments to conduct weather altering tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 ^Really Gibber; that the best you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibber Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Not me, must be Prince. That post isn't saying anything different to what you are saying is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOYAANISQATSI Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Beg pardon. My Sarcasm-o-meter is kept on highest setting when your around and with your sock puppeting previous, I was waiting for the punchline. Oh, and greetings to wing commander. If you see Prince, tell him he can get in our gang but no preaching and he has to bring his own chem buster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wing commander Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 If you keep your eyes open you'll see them; always from white unmarked jets usually two or more at a time high enough to make no sound whatsoever. sometimes I have seen them fly parallel, with the one at greater Altitude leaving no trail or switching them on then off, which alone blows away the lies they spout about how contrails make these things. Interesting picture in the Shetland Times 12 02 2010. Page 35. Two planes flying in parallel, one slightly ahead of the other, the lead plane has a constant trail, the second only has a short trail. Greetings again from Land's End. These are the original quotes which prompted me to respond. Yes, the formation and all characteristics are the same, so our observations match, right down to the lead plane having a constant trail and the second having only a short trail. I can add that the lead plane was larger and had 4 engines whereas the following plane was smaller and had 2 engines. I don't know why the 'con trail' from the larger plane stayed visible but the trail from the smaller plane vanished quickly. I assumed they'd burn the same sort of fuel so they'd both either disappear or stay visible. Perhaps they burn different fuel or amounts of fuel. Or perhaps 2 engines on the large plane were burning and releasing one type of fuel but the other 2 were emitting something else. I don't know, I'm not a wing commander in the RAF! I will post again if I find any more info. Koyaanisqatsi ~ my friend has a dog called 'Prince' but that's as far as it goes with me knowing any Princes... Wing Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogling Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Interesting article on Avio News, World Aeronautical Press Agency European Parliament: question on aircraft condensation trails which no longer only contain water Strasbourg, France - By Erik Meijer (GUE/NGL) (WAPA) - "Written question E-2455/07 by Erik Meijer (GUE/NGL) to the Commission Subject: aircraft condensation trails which no longer only contain water but cause persistent milky veils, possibly due to the presence of barium, aluminium and iron http://www.avionews.com/index.php?corpo=see_news_home.php&news_id=1077601&pagina_chiamante=index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogling Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Sorry, should have checked the original source & date... The reply from The Commission Parliamentary questions26 June 2007 E-2455/2007 Answer given by Mr Dimas on behalf of the Commission 1. The Commission is aware of claims that such trends and phenomena exist. However, the Commission is not aware of any evidence substantiating such claims. The extent to which aircraft condensation trails form and the speed at which they disappear are in the first instance determined by pressure, temperature, and the relative humidity of a given flight level. Fuel and combustion properties and the overall propulsive efficiency may also have an impact. Any changes or trends in the extent to which contrails are reported to remain visible and develop into more widespread clouds may thus be due to factors such as changes in: — meteorological conditions;— traffic volumes;— jet-engine efficiency. 2. The Commission is aware of such claims but is not aware of any evidence that particles of barium, aluminium or iron are being emitted, deliberately or not, by aircraft. 3. No. It cannot be precluded that the release of such particles might affect precipitation and climate change, but as indicated above the Commission is not aware of any evidence that such releases take place. 4. The Commission is not aware of any evidence that such methods are being employed in Europe. 5. None of the substances referred to are hazardous per se, but some effects on environment and public health can not be ruled out if large scale releases to the air occurred. 6. As indicated above the Commission is not aware of any evidence suggesting that there is any reason to act ... so, aluminium and barium are not dangerous... Increases in incidence of Alzheimers / Neurological conditions... nothing to do with chemtrails then, phew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 My wife spotted this about 9pm tonight. The main contrail is heading East If you look closely you will see a westbound plane heading towards of the track of the other contrail before the dogleg. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/MuckleJoannie/Contrail8May2010.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Does anyone know if the ash cloud is still over Britain?.. The sky was a mess of trails yesterday with the flights being diverted over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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