Joesg Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Is anybody able to tell me why Total can go ahead and build a £500,000,000 gas terminal, without any public consultation, leaflets in the Shetland Times, public outcry etc etc and Viking can't build a windfarm? Why are we asked about one and not the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Recent changes in the law regarding consultation. It's less controversial too. The windfarm will be seen from half of Shetland and lead to major disruption. The Total plant will be out of sight in Sullom. There's also the fact that we will have to fund 40% of the cost of the windfarm! The councillors have a great opportunity to strike a great deal for Shetland with Total. Not much will stop a £500M investment which the UK requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachy Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 There was planning stuff in the paper, with the opportunity to submit objections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well I reckon SIC should whack in the conditions for Total that they open a petrol station here and give us all petrol/diesel at oooh, let's think now, 50p a litre? Nope? Yeah I agree, too high - make if FREEEEEEEEE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesg Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I know about the planning application but why is it not as contoversial? Is it really all about money? we live in times when climate change is no longer something to worry about but something we have to deal with I think that yet another pollution spreading hydrocarbon factory should be VERY controversial! Hiddenaway at Sullom? Hidden from Who? It's easy to forget about Sullom when you don't live near it - I grew up looking at Sullom voe and I can assure you there is no greater eyesore in Shetland, Well except maybe the Shetland Hotel, but it has blended in over the years. I'm not interested in the debate about yay or nay as far as the windfarm is considered I just think this has been kept below the radar a bit because of the money and amazed at the lack of protests, letters to the paper and public divide about this which is in many ways another example of big business making a fortune out of Shetland and us paying through the nose for the fuel they produce. A company the size of Total could easily provide free fuel for the whole of Shetland and not even notice the dip in their profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunnered Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Sullom may be an eye-sore, but it's created employment for a good many Shetlanders, at higher wages than they would have got anywhere else if Sullom hadn't existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well I reckon SIC should whack in the conditions for Total that they open a petrol station here and give us all petrol/diesel at oooh, let's think now, 50p a litre? Nope? Yeah I agree, too high - make if FREEEEEEEEE! This is Shetland we live in not Cloud Cuckoo Land. Your sentiments were similarly expressed in the 70's when the oil terminal arrived. The most expensive petrol in the UK was sold at the Firth Filling Station - a mere 64.7 yards (it was the 70's) from the Brent Pipeline that transported the black gold ashore.Welcome the Total plant with a gusto - it's "real" work for the upcoming generation. Speaking of gusto - the proposed wind farm - not enough hot air has been generated so far so not really viable from a teenagers future career point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^If you look on the VE thread you'll see that I've actually favoured Total as opposed to VE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^ Rarely go to the VE thread (did I mention hot air) - but looks like you have your head and heart in the right place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Sullom may be an eye-sore.. Yes, and I agree with Mutton, its visual impact is quite loacalised.The proposed windfarm will be an eye-sore seen from from well over 50% (rough guess) of Shetland.OK, we can see the light from the flare at night, but we also see the light polution created by Lerwick, Scalloway, Brae etc.I feel this is one of the reasons a lot of people object to the wind farm, the fact that it's not hidden away in a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeunson Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Sullom may be an eye-sore.. Yes, and I agree with Mutton, its visual impact is quite loacalised.The proposed windfarm will be an eye-sore seen from from well over 50% (rough guess) of Shetland. If they're fighting against one thing over it beng an eye-sore why not everything? Just because only a few have to see it doesn't make it any better in that respect. Anyway, some people actually like the look of windfarms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ..... Anyway, some people actually like the look of windfarms. and some people like the look of the wild and desolate hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeunson Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ..... Anyway, some people actually like the look of windfarms. and some people like the look of the wild and desolate hills. Well why aren't these people complaining about the desolate piece of hill Total plans to build on? That's the whole issue people seem to have is that very few of the arguements being levelled against VE are even being considered against Total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ There is a massive difference between one hill and several. The technology is proven to be reliable with gas which cannot be said to be the same in relation to wind power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ There is a massive difference between one hill and several. The technology is proven to be reliable with gas which cannot be said to be the same in relation to wind power.sorry unlink the wind turbine is reliable. its how you use it. the orkney's are going to be a major player in green power what are the antis going to say when we lose out to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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