PJ of Hildisvik Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 One question... Have any of the pro VE brigade on here put an Objection in against Total?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ There is a massive difference between one hill and several. The technology is proven to be reliable with gas which cannot be said to be the same in relation to wind power.sorry unlink the wind turbine is reliable. its how you use it. the orkney's are going to be a major player in green power what are the antis going to say when we lose out to them. I know for a FACT that wind turbines break down. The technology is definitely questionable. Us mere mortals aka Joe Public don't hear everything regarding the technical breakdowns and the lack of back-up when ONE component fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 How many tourism brochures feature pictures of Sullom Voe? Would all the photos in the tourist brochures just 'avoid' the windfarms? Simon King didn't hark on about Sullom Voe being a blot on the landscape - he did however talk on many occasions of Shetlands unspoilt beauty, cover the islands in windmills and it will impact the tourism industry. The gas plant is a national issue, the plant and related infrastructure is critical for the UK to maintain and grow it's energy supply security. On a global scale, all the major producing nations are tightening their grip on their indigenous energy resources. The windfarm is a local issue - and is all about revenue for the isles to maintain it's largely council funded economy. And not entirely on topic but interesting all the same - you'd need a huge pump up Hydro scheme to compensate for the recent lack of wind across Scotland. http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1634185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeunson Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ There is a massive difference between one hill and several. The technology is proven to be reliable with gas which cannot be said to be the same in relation to wind power. Why, because a few more people can see it? Basing an arguement on destruction of hills etc then ignoring it if it's tucked away out of sight next to Sullom is a bit flawed in my opinion. Wind technology is certainly reliable. Burradale proves how usefull it is in the energy mix. Gas is actually a very good backup for wind too as it can be spun up to operation very quickly if the wind suddenly drops. One question... Have any of the pro VE brigade on here put an Objection in against Total?? Probably not. Gas power is better than coal power so at least it's a move in the right direction and it secures jobs for Shetland. Win win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeunson Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I know for a FACT that wind turbines break down. Wow, that's a FACT you say! How is this different from anything in engineering? Nothing is designed to last forever. Parts can have manufacturing flaws sometimes. Ever noticed a power cut in Shetland? Yup, you guessed it, that's a break down too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ There is a massive difference between one hill and several. The technology is proven to be reliable with gas which cannot be said to be the same in relation to wind power.sorry unlink the wind turbine is reliable. its how you use it. the orkney's are going to be a major player in green power what are the antis going to say when we lose out to them. I know for a FACT that wind turbines break down. The technology is definitely questionable. Us mere mortals aka Joe Public don't hear everything regarding the technical breakdowns and the lack of back-up when ONE component fails. And how does one know for a FACT.......do you work in the industry....or are you voicing another opinion which is based on what ???....... Nothing personal just interested to know what you based your FACTS on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ Of course things break down; however, back-up facilities are usually in place if one component fails. It is well known that wind farms have suffered gearbox faults. There are, however, other faults which have occurred with windfarms. Mylife, I work within/for several industrial sectors. I'll have a look on the web to see if a particular fault has been published on a website and will post the link if I find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longdog Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Erm... any rational person could say for a fact that wind turbines break down just as everthing else will breakdown/need repairs/maintenance, or in the case of nuclear reactors, melt down. You could even say it's a fact of life I don't think that they break down has any relevance to the discussion what so ever, it's a given really... Hopefully not all fail at once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 sound view. if a turbine even burns down your down a turbine and some rewiring. if a 500 million gas plant goes pop then we are down a few miles of shetland. are they going to produce liquid gas as well. what risks would there be for terrorist attacks being it will be a prime target. like sullom was on its opening. whos going to pay for the extra policing. when there are an extra thousand workers building it are the services going to cope with the demand. but that goes for the windfarm to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ Most systems have back-ups in place though if a single component fails: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/6031989/Wind-turbines-stopped-by-power-fault.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ of Hildisvik Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 A large Tesco at Sella Ness to supply the workforce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeunson Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ Of course things break down; however, back-up facilities are usually in place if one component fails. It is well known that wind farms have suffered gearbox faults. There are, however, other faults which have occurred with windfarms. Mylife, I work within/for several industrial sectors. I'll have a look on the web to see if a particular fault has been published on a website and will post the link if I find it. These types of failures and other downtime are included in the 0.54 or whatever efficiency value the Burradale windfarm produces at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ Of course things break down; however, back-up facilities are usually in place if one component fails. It is well known that wind farms have suffered gearbox faults. There are, however, other faults which have occurred with windfarms. Mylife, I work within/for several industrial sectors. I'll have a look on the web to see if a particular fault has been published on a website and will post the link if I find it. Looking at your other posts....it seems that you work from home typing up other people's reports...so how do you work within several industrial sectors...when you offer a service as a secretary. Nothing personal am just confused by what you have said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 A large Tesco at Sella Ness to supply the workforce? you tesco lackey lets have a selfridges instead after all were going to be rich again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^^ Of course things break down; however, back-up facilities are usually in place if one component fails. It is well known that wind farms have suffered gearbox faults. There are, however, other faults which have occurred with windfarms. Mylife, I work within/for several industrial sectors. I'll have a look on the web to see if a particular fault has been published on a website and will post the link if I find it. Looking at your other posts....it seems that you work from home typing up other people's reports...so how do you work within several industrial sectors...when you offer a service as a secretary. Nothing personal am just confused by what you have said I will reply via pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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