joshua767 Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I really canna see how onybody would oppose da 500million gas plant as I dont see how it could possibly be bad for da island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 nobody really does its a tool to examine the anti wind farm groups arguments. we went through the road from aith to voe today and the hills need a lot of work doing to them lots of bare peat and erosion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barmy Fred Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 It seems totally crazy that Shetland doesn't get it's electric from the gas turbines at Sullom.An immediate 40% reduction in the Isle's carbon emmissions. PJ, Sullom already generates 50% of Shetland's Electricity and sometimes more. The Lerwick station is hard pressed now, when it has to run on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stirrer Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I really canna see how onybody would oppose da 500million gas plant as I dont see how it could possibly be bad for da island. Might not be bad for the island - perhaps it will be quite good, but will it really be good for the environment ? It will require the moving of a very similar quantity of peat, but although Unsustainable Shetland were predicting an environmental disaster if peat was moved for a green wind farm, not a cheap from them over the Total project. Only comment i saw on this forum, was from their vice president Kevin Learmouth (KTL) who said that it was too difficult to oppose a multinational carbon burning oil company, but a local authority trying to secure the future of good services for its inhabinants were fair game for a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaterboy Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 having worked for total all I can say is they have the best food and accomadation of any oil company anywhere in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nobody is really surprised Total is having an easy ride are they Total= The devil you know Viking Energy = The devil a lot of folk don't want to know The company I work for has started working on 3 different wind turbine projects and without fail we'll get one person come wandering up to site calling us everything and anything none of which is very nice. I have to admit that I'm not a huge fan of the things from an aesthetics point, I reckon they stick out like a sore thumb and don't add anything to the landscape, but they do work and if you believe we need to reduce our carbon emissions then they are a necessary evil. I am a n.i.m.b.y though I'm all for them just as long as I don't have to look at them, Sullom Voe already has the facility there adding the gas plant isn't going to have the same effect on the landscapes (visually) as that quantity of wind turbines. Either way large amounts of peat are going to be moved, if you argue against the windfarm on that basis I'd expect you'd oppose the gas plant and neither should be constructed. I expect to see the gas plant finished before the windfarm though as Shetland loves its money from the oil companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euripides Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I've looked through all the posts by KTL in good faith, but couldn't find the one quoted by Stirrer (23.3. 10.48, page 2 of this thread). This didn't come as a surprise, as the post quoted is obviously a product of wishful thinking on Stirrer's part. It's good to have some banter on Shetlink, and to stir things up now and again, but I find contributions like the fictional KTL post distasteful and lacking in respect for the Shetlink member targeted in this way. No matter how it's done, it's never good to put words into folks' mouths. Maybe some folk find Stirrer's contribution about KTL funny, but I certainly wouldn't like to be at the receiving end of them. I find them disturbing to say the least. IMHO some of Stirrer's posts are sailing a bit close to the wind - no pun intended - (see his account of the SIC VE Planning Consultation Lerwick Meeting on the VE windfarm thread). I'm actually wondering if these posts could be libelous, and I would like to hear the SL moderators' opinion on this. On a lighter note, I'm beginning to wonder if Stirrer is actually a bonafide VE supporter. I have a sneaking suspision that he's a tool in a Sustainable Shetland dirty tricks campaign, acting as their first Agent Provocateur ( in the political sense of the phrase), working to discredit WSG, helping to swing public opinion against VE, and recruiting new members. He's doing a great job - I feel tempted to join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njugle Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 It's perhaps a twist on a point, rather than entirely erroneous euripides. I'm guessing the comment referred to was this one:http://www.shetlink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=142519#142519 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euripides Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Thanks for that Njugle. As I said, I looked at all KTL posts and couldn't find the one Stirrer "quoted". "Putting a twist on things" sounds cool, even cooler if you add a cocktail umbrella. It's one of those strange linguistic phenomena where the noun is so very different from the verb. what you call putting a twist on things i call twisting the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozetland1 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Work commenced on the project today - but nobody appears to have noticed !!! http://kozetland1.blogspot.com/2010/04/almost-unnoticed-piece-of-shetland.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Perhaps no one told em..or they don't read their own paper, or bother to ask. Both sides have missed that really/ good scoop kozetland1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Under secretary of state for Scotland David Mundell was due in Shetland tomorrow (Friday) to cast the first peat on the hillside at Crooksetter with Total’s top brass and local council officials looking on. But local crofter Bryden Nicolson has refused access to any government official to the site because he says he is still owed £222,000 by the Scottish government under their scheme to eradicate scrapie, the sheep form of mad cow disease. Oh, man....You gotta love it! Gerrorfmalaand! More power to him, I wouldn't let any on the jokers that are running (un)Holyrood on mine either. http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/2010/May/news/Bryden%20blocks%20Totals%20big%20day.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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