Dratsy Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 You are forgetting the number of times that the UK has intervened when regions around the world have wanted to break away from their respective countries without the say so of the ruling government, It would make their position in the international courts untenable if they were to deny us that right if we so wished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Certain conservatives are interested enough in the Shetland oilfields to propose the follwing amendment to the Scotland bill (2D) A vote in a referendum held under subsection (2B) of this section which results in Scotland leaving the United Kingdom shall not be binding on the residents of the Orkney Islands or the Shetland Islands unless a majority of the residents of the Orkney Islands and the Shetland Islands who voted in such a referendum voted that Scotland should leave the United Kingdom. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16730929 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofter Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 You are forgetting the number of times that the UK has intervened when regions around the world have wanted to break away from their respective countries without the say so of the ruling government, It would make their position in the international courts untenable if they were to deny us that right if we so wished. If Shetland did negotiate for independence, and got it, we would soon be invaded by the US, to bring us the right kind of democracy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 ^^ I love watching baseball so that could be an interesting outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMagnie Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Short answer? Because most of the proponents are a laughing stock and/or this 'window of opportunity' you speak of is a figment of your imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 The short and simple answer is because most modern-day Shetlanders are more concerned with a trip to IKEA for a few bargains or, as I've mentioned before, what the latest sky package is. I read the rather patronising editorial in the ST today which described any desire of Shetland breaking away from Scotland as "fantasy" unless there was a cohesive political group/movement and although that would be preferential I personally think it could be done with the combination of a new council leading the way and the support of the electorate via a referendum. I don't understand this talk of legal/illegal - if a place like Shetland democratically decided to pursue a new consitutional avenue then why should some bully boy like Edinburgh or London be able to over-rule it?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 The only man to make a stand was our mate Stuart. He appeared to be the only one on the islands to make a stand. It did not quite go too well. Folk on here say they want it but no one has come forward to stand for it. Really, no one has the Niageras. I would think it may be that in the real world of names, they may more worried about any ridicule than defending what they say here is right. Other will chip in from the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I don't understand this talk of legal/illegal - if a place like Shetland democratically decided to pursue a new constitutional avenue then why should some bully boy like Edinburgh or London be able to over-rule it?.By the same logic why should the so called "Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire" not have declared independence from the UK and then applied to join the USSR?. Yes it was not an island but are we going to limit "freedom" to islands or can any community opt out of the UK?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofter Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I see this on www.forvik.com Somebody has hacked the site perhaps? Difficult to say, its arguably of a similar standard to some of whats been posted previously, that the man himself has stood by. Du might be right - there is a picture of the "rocket" there now, http://forvik.com/index.php/component/content/article/922-aerospace/352-central-section-of-free-ze1-completed http://forvik.com/images/stories/aerospace/free_ze1/central_section_raw.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Whatever the motive, fair play to Tavish Scott for sticking his head above the parapit. Click on 1.06. It's a pretty standard and poor BBC Scotland report i.e the "Northern Isles" ad nauseum, Up-Helly-Aa, Shetland fiddle music but Tavish makes some valid points. The editor of The Shetland Times is just a scotophile and ex The Scotsman employee(i.e pro The Union) so no surprises regarding his negative and somewhat snooty attitude. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01dczz8/Sunday_Politics_Scotland_18_03_2012/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 The only man to make a stand was our mate Stuart. It did not quite go too well. LOL, master of understatement there, could it have gone any worse? Mind you, maybe he'll surpass himself yet with his latest venture and end up wiping out one of the Scatsta planes on his way into orbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 While most ordinary Shetlanders work for peanuts.... http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=no&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.aftenbladet.no/energi/olje/Norske-oljelonninger-hoyest-i-verden-2945664.html&usg=ALkJrhh_YA3RFKB3zdCOgBlDbEnMX37W6g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 ^Are most ordinary Shetlanders offshore workers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 SNP admits Shetland and Orkney could opt out of independent Scotland http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9156220/SNP-admits-Shetland-and-Orkney-could-opt-out-of-independent-Scotland.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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