daveh Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 ... are rubbish. In previous years, the black bin bags we have been provided with have been quite strong. The ones that we got this years are very thin and split easily. As a result, I am having to either tape up the holes or having to use two bags at the same time. Anyone else here noticed the poor quality or is it just me complaining about nothing again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 ... are rubbish. In previous years, the black bin bags we have been provided with have been quite strong. The ones that we got this years are very thin and split easily. As a result, I am having to either tape up the holes or having to use two bags at the same time. Anyone else here noticed the poor quality or is it just me complaining about nothing again? Another example of wasted council funds IMO. Bin bags should be purchased by the home owner like in almost every other Local Authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandRover S2a Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I too have noticed they aren't as strong as previous years bags and also seem to be smaller but hey, they are free so I'll stop moaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 no they are not. we pay for them out of the council tax. whats the betting that with the drop off the cost is at least twice what we would pay in a shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepick239 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I am not aware of any Local Council that hands out free Black Rubbish Bags either.So how much does this cost the SIC in a year?[/b]In future, we will be able to buy these from the ever-expanding Tesco, the Co-Op and who knows maybe even Harry's?More later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I am not aware of any Local Council that hands out free Black Rubbish Bags either. I moved to Shetland from St Albans in Hertfordshire and we were supplied with two bin bags each week up until the time that I moved here 2 years ago.In response to the comment that we should pay for the bags, I have ended up paying for some stronger bags anyway in addition to paying for them via my rates. For those in town now using wheelie bins, are they paying for the emptying of them each week over and above their rates? I would doubt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 We never got free bags in London. When we first moved up here we purchased black bags in Tesco and Co-op. It wasn't until much later on that the Council delivered 2 rolls and I was, quite frankly, gobsmacked that they provided them. We don't pay for them as part of Council Tax - a Local Authority is only under an obligation to collect household refuge if placed in a suitable container. We pay for the collection via Council Tax, not the bags. The bags are a freebie and IMHO, should not be a freebie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Isn't it just that they have changed to using biodegradable bags? They seem similar to the ones like that we've bought from the CooP in the past. In that sense, its probably a good thing the council provide them rather than people using less environmentally friendly alternatives. I do know a couple of other local authorities where the wheelie bins are provided, rather than charged for as they are here. Six and two threes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Isn't it just that they have changed to using biodegradable bags? ... In that sense, its probably a good thing the council provide them rather than people using less environmentally friendly alternatives.Is that true? I don't know much about the polymers involved, but I am dubious if there is likely to be much difference in what comes out of the incinerator. In any case, the new ones are indeed rubbish, rubbish bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 We don't pay for them as part of Council Tax - a Local Authority is only under an obligation to collect household refuge if placed in a suitable container. We pay for the collection via Council Tax, not the bags. The bags are a freebie and IMHO, should not be a freebie. If the council are providing them then they are paid from the rates that we pay to SIC. Who else do you think is paying for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 We don't pay for them as part of Council Tax - a Local Authority is only under an obligation to collect household refuge if placed in a suitable container. We pay for the collection via Council Tax, not the bags. The bags are a freebie and IMHO, should not be a freebie. If the council are providing them then they are paid from the rates that we pay to SIC. Who else do you think is paying for them? I haven't looked at the breakdown up here of Council income but CT does not make up all of the Council's income. For example, I know that the borough in London was subsidised 73% by the Government. However, I've read on here that SIC is a more affluent LA but at the same time, is subsidised. Given the fact that the SIC is making cuts elsewhere, then to me, I would say that free bin bags should be scrapped. Re wheelie bins - most boroughs do charge for these. I can't stand wheelie bins - perhaps ever since one decided to wobble out into the road just as I was coming along on my motorbike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 rossendale were up to four free wheelies when we left. two normal because we were a 8 person home, a green one and a brown one. i think it would not work out here in the wilds a few gusts and you will have free waste desposal at sea. still not free even it came from central goverment. taxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Isn't it just that they have changed to using biodegradable bags? ... In that sense, its probably a good thing the council provide them rather than people using less environmentally friendly alternatives.Is that true? I don't know much about the polymers involved, but I am dubious if there is likely to be much difference in what comes out of the incinerator. Very true, I was trying to do my environmental bit but I'm glad you mentioned that. It's a bit like the whole "real nappy" thing. It's actually worse than using dispoables here because all the rubbish is burnt so they dont go to landfill, and washing real nappies both uses electricity and flushes deteregents etc down the drain.. oops. /rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerwick Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I must agree with you. Its the glass that gets me grind it up and destroy it to make concrete slabs ? In the past the bottles were washed out and reused grays lemonade etc. Cars are made to be recycled, could they not just make them to last? The only recycling in shetland as far as i can see is the bike project. pardon the pun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I have just bought a load of slabs made from recycled glass; some of which was placed by me in the bins. Should I be feeling guilty, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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