Spinner72 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 ^^ Unquestionably. Look at the recent protests against our own SIC. However the word "courage" has no place anywhere near the actions of Greenpeace. "Dangerous" and "Stupid" on the other hand fit perfectly. ... if they came in to LK...I find their actual location to be quite interesting. They have kept steaming about well offshore rather than enter the harbour. Currently, they are nowhere near their "heroes" and certainly not providing any kind of backup safety cover. Are they scared of encountering the natives? Probably just trying to burn up as much fuel as possible to keep the accounts moving.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 The activists look very relaxed in their pod! Very cosy!Don't think they will be leaving soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1930720The Press and Journal's take on the day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Things we want to know. The vanguard of these numpties arrived, allegedly via Northlink. They got to the SC in a RIB, or RIBs. Did they bring them with them on Northlink, or how did they get them here, seeing as they arrived ahead of their own boat. If they and the RIB or RIBs arrived via Northlink, and Northlink are effectively a government owned and run company, shouldn't Nortlink have refused to transport them and their boat(s)? As in fact if they did, we the taxpayer partially paid to enable these idiots and their equipment to get here with our tax dollars, are partially paying for them while they are here in the shape of the Police monitoring the situation, and there is a possibility we will be expected to pay yet more in Police etc costs if it comes to it they they have to be forcibly removed. Having to put up with their b/s because it's an allegely free country and they have the right to protest is galling enough, but if indeed we've partially paid to bring them, are partially paying to have them as "guests", and may well have to pay considerably more yet to eventually evict them, it is extracting the urine of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I find their actual location to be quite interesting. They have kept steaming about well offshore rather than enter the harbour. They've been pootling about nicely out of range of the Fort Charlotte cannons. Here's today's AIS tracking data... http://www.simplecreatures.net/misc/img/esperanza.gif Loved this! A work of art.. I am a member of Ship A.I.S too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Things we want to know. The vanguard of these numpties arrived, allegedly via Northlink. They got to the SC in a RIB, or RIBs. Did they bring them with them on Northlink, or how did they get them here, seeing as they arrived ahead of their own boat. If they and the RIB or RIBs arrived via Northlink, and Northlink are effectively a government owned and run company, shouldn't Nortlink have refused to transport them and their boat(s)? I would believe Ghostrider they arrived at Aberdeen just like anyone else sailing here!Non descript.. Tourists...Northlink has never searched my case for a dingy?Have they ever searched your's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I admire folk who risk their lives to protest in something they believe in. BUT: Risking coastguard etc. to do it is not admirable. Definitely agree on that. But... I'm not sure about the other stuff. Want to question it without being lambasted!!?? Would Shetland be f**ked if there was a disaster of some sort and does more drilling make that more likely? Or not? And does more drilling stunt development of other forms of offshore energy production? Talpa - fear not. Offshore drilling has been going on around our shores in the UKCS (United Kingdom Continental Shelf) for over 50 years now, and rarely has their been any problems with pollution. Like GR says above, most of the tarry balls sometimes appearing on beaches are either wreck related or a throwback to the World Wars - fact. There have been some significant oil exploitation incidents and disasters over that 50 year period including some that have resulted, sadly, in loss of life. These include the Piper Alpha blowout when 167 people perished and of course the Braer grounding near Quendale, Shetland, in 1993. However the current Greenpeace (GP) protest has nothing to do with any of those events. GP appear to be primarily concerned with jumping on the media bandwagon kicked off by the alledged GOM "disaster" (that in reality is peanuts compared to the aforementioned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Things we want to know. The vanguard of these numpties arrived, allegedly via Northlink. They got to the SC in a RIB, or RIBs. Did they bring them with them on Northlink, or how did they get them here, seeing as they arrived ahead of their own boat. If they and the RIB or RIBs arrived via Northlink, and Northlink are effectively a government owned and run company, shouldn't Nortlink have refused to transport them and their boat(s)?I would believe Ghostrider they arrived at Aberdeen just like anyone else sailing here!Non descript.. Tourists...Northlink has never searched my case for a dingy?Have they ever searched your's? It must have been one doozy of a case to hold a fibreglass hull. The "R" is important, it stands for "Rigid" They require a trailer, just like a conventional tub. Kinda difficult to miss one of those attached to the sternum of a vehicle. If they're out there using a rubber ring with a rubber sheet bottom designed for places like quiet rivers and lakes, and along beaches, that could, theoretically at least, have squeezed in to a large case, as a safety boat etc, they're a whole lot more mental than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 To put a bit of context on that ^^. The GOM sheen is reported to be c. 40 million gallons, the Braer spill was about 29 million gallons. St. Ninian's Isle beach, slestered in oil from the Braer in '93, has just been voted the "best beach"...Conclusion....Dinna fesh deesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 anidder conclusion..... State of the art equipped drilling ship, boarded by (well nearly boarded by) state of the art equipped protesters, supported by state of the art equipped support vessel, being monitored by state of the art equipped police and with state of the art equipped emergency services ready to pounce, being closely monitored by state of the art equipped journalists and media folks .... ALL being v. closely monitored by state of the art equipped Shetlinkers....... Business as usual methinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waarigeo Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Dis brings a whole new meaning to "Clingons on the Starboard Bow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 ^^ Unquestionably. Look at the recent protests against our own SIC. However the word "courage" has no place anywhere near the actions of Greenpeace. "Dangerous" and "Stupid" on the other hand fit perfectly. May be so, but still takes guts. Next folk will call them cowards lol. How far would you go to protest about something you believe in?Their belief, to them is as real as the risks they take with their own lives. From what I have seen, Greenpeace generally plan these things quite well, tho now some on will prove me wrong. Not the point really. Their experience on Rockall gave em practice. Our rights of direct action has been diminished by legislation and peer pressure. Some of us have lost our Niagaras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longdog Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 In regards to all these monkeys They're not from Hartlepool, the legend is the monkey was a french spy that got hung Now known as H'angus and a mascot for the rugby team Not giving anyone food for thought though! Another modern one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 ^^ Unquestionably. Look at the recent protests against our own SIC. However the word "courage" has no place anywhere near the actions of Greenpeace. "Dangerous" and "Stupid" on the other hand fit perfectly. May be so, but still takes guts. Next folk will call them cowards lol. How far would you go to protest about something you believe in?Their belief, to them is as real as the risks they take with their own lives. Guts? Those people wouldn't know bravery if it was staring them in the face! What would take guts is to admit they have been fleecing well meaning donators for years, and that they don't give a hoot about the environment and are only our for profit and sensationalism. They alread more than prove those things by their actions, so lets see them show these "guts" and admit it. As for planning, all you have to do is look at the "knots" holding them there. If they can't even plan how to tie a knot what can possibly make anyone think any of the rest of it is planned? As has been said many times, and is glaringly obvious to all, all they are doing is risking the lives of our lifeboatmen and others who may be lost whilst the emergency services are dealing with them, not to mention the devesatation which could be cause by the environmental disaster these people so long for. Cowards indeed. Cowards of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 anidder conclusion..... State of the art equipped drilling ship, boarded by (well nearly boarded by) state of the art equipped protesters, supported by state of the art equipped support vessel, being monitored by state of the art equipped police and with state of the art equipped emergency services ready to pounce, being closely monitored by state of the art equipped journalists and media folks .... ALL being v. closely monitored by state of the art equipped Shetlinkers....... Business as usual methinks An fok tink dirs nae place fur the arts in shetland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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