Stena Carron protest in Shetland - Greenpeace Esperanza

[paulb]

there are or was over 6000 members even if a 1/3 are off island he has just insulted 20% of the islands population. now i wonder how many are folks who put him into the council. better still that 20% lent him money for his boat. now if i owed folks money and depended on them for another good earner then maybe calling them stupid is well stupid.

[Guest Anonymous]

Looking at the AIS. It looks like they've eventually 'greenpeaced' off!

[crofter]

Looking at the AIS. It looks like they've eventually 'greenpeaced' off!

 

Maybe gone to refuel?

[MuckleJoannie]

Environmental campaigners have shot themselves in the foot with this video

 

Environmental campaigners axe gory film

 

Environmental campaigners 10:10 have withdrawn a film showing a teacher graphically exploding two of her students who refuse to reduce their carbon emissions, after complaints.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx4yr0FFhMQ

[Njugle]

How did anyone ever think that such a video was going to be a good idea?

[Ghostrider]

^^ The first section of it looks like a deranged 21st C. re-take on the vid for Pink Floyd's - Another Brick in the Wall.

[EM]

^

Highly depressing to hear Radiohead playing. Hope they disassociate themselves from it.

[Askelon09]

Lame Joke Warning

 

Esperanza en-route to Amsterdam, me think they are goin to get supplies

of Green to keep the Peace...

paaahaha

Sorry folks, maybe funnier in my head

[Malachy]

From much earlier in the thread...

 

I think it is quite interesting that there has not been any mention on Shetlink of the Deep Water Horizon fiasco, despite the potential for stirring up "what if that happened here" type debate.

 

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill was due to poor safety standards. The opinion of the oil industry is that the Piper Alpha disaster caused a tightening up of standards in the North Sea, so a comparable oil spill is unlikely.

 

It seems that people's complacency about safety in the North Sea may not be entirely justified. This from the Today programme this morning (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/today/tomfeilden/2010/12/a_near_miss_for_the_north_sea.html) shows that there was almost an identical incident to the Deepwater Horizon disaster on the Sedco 711 rig four months earlier.

 

Then, in May of this year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11801317

 

The insistence of some here that oil companies can be trusted over safety seems to me a little naive.

[Snaz]

Looks like some of the venom directed at Greenpeace earlier in this thread doesn't hold so much credibility now.

[Sudden Stop]

^^^

 

The negative comments directed at greenpeace were not regarding their cause but rather their methods - which in this case were completely misguided and put others at risk.

 

The oil companies may well have been hiding information from us and they should be condemed for it. Greenpeace would've been better off bringing that to our attention rather than hooking themselves onto the anchor chain of such a huge vessel so close to our shores.

[Ghostrider]

The insistence of some here that oil companies can be trusted over safety seems to me a little naive.

 

The oil industry are no safer than the bottom line of their balance sheet makes them be.

 

Greenpeace came here riding on the back of the Gulf of Mexico incident, shouting the odds about banning deep water drilling. Without providing any evidence the water depth had any tangible influence on the Gulf incident occuring.

 

It was a milking of an incident for all it was worth, and then some. Their actions while here were never going to make any difference to the big picture, if winter weather didn't quickly make their zooming around in rubber smucks impossible, legal etc means were. The only meaningful profit GP could hope to make with the way they were acting was in publicity for themselves, and an additional inpouring of funds. Feeling like you're being used by someone else for their own betterment and gain, in an otherwise pointless exercise, even in such a small way as GP were using Shetland and Shetlanders, does not go down well.

 

Yes, the oil industry need watching when it comes to safety, the same as any other driven by profits organisation, but they've had their fingers burned a few times around here already since the 70's, so they're not so slip shod as they were. Having had there fingers burned now too in the Gulf of Mexico will all help make them run a tighter ship.

 

One glance at the slump in share price and annual profit, and the fate of the scapegoats, will do far more good in increasing safety, than any raft of legal regulations, and certainly far, far more good than a bunch of, hopefully well intentioned, but misguided evangelists splashing in the sea begging for the media to acknowledge them.

[Skunnered]

It's probably worth noting that this near-miss in the North Sea was caused by the same US drilling company, Transocean, that had the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. Funny that the Americans were shouting about it being caused by a "British" company, i.e. BP.