JustMe Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I guess my first point has to be directed to the mods. Are they allowed to have a free and open discussion on Shetlink about the Scottish Elections in general and the the Shetland constituency in particular?. If not then I think the law is wrong but I will not feel in the least bit aggrieved if they delete this whole topic. But if we can discuss the election here then the first thing I want to say is "please vote!" Even if you are going to vote for a candidate that I would rather die than vote for then please vote. And may I remind you that people, especially the suffragettes, died so that some of you can vote. Now me, as an elector who has not yet decided who I am going to give my vote to has noticed that a certain Tavish Scott has been pushing for people to vote for the Lib Dems in parts of Scotland other than Shetland. May I remind him, should he look at Shetlink, that, since as far as I can see from searching for list candidates, he is not included in the Lib Dems list for the Highlands and Islands he is relying on Shetland voters to elect him then maybe he ought to be canvassing for votes here. After all there is a Fox lurking in the bushes as well as the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooks Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 The same Terms & Conditions and Guidelines apply to this topic as they do any other on the forum. We don't lock topics willy nilly and we appreciate freedom of speech as much as the next person. Usually a topic will only be deleted/locked if there is a chance that we will be threatened with legal action or the thread descends into childish taunts and bickering. Feel free to discuss the Scottish Elections in a grown-up fashion and I am sure that the thread will flourish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Sorry Pooks and other mods. I did not exactly make myself clear about free and open discussion being allowed. What I meant was does the law about elections allow debates on internet forums. Since I guess it does I hope we will have some good points made in the run up to the election. As well as the 5 candidates standing for the Shetland seat we have a total of 14 parties standing for the Highlands and Islands list vote including the major and not so major parties including one hopeful candidate on a "Ban Bankers Bonuses" ticket. A sentiment many of us will agree with but agreement may not turn into votes. I suspect that I will cast my list vote for the Green party as although I do not want to see a Green government I think it is good to have Green representatives within Parliament. Not decided on my Shetland vote yet. Want to see what the candidates have to say on a range of issues and indeed what their parties have to say about things that concern Shetland (which may differ from what the candidate thinks). I do predict a closer result than in previous elections which may well see the losers trying harder next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme_Storey Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 ... there is a Fox lurking in the bushes ....It will be very, very interesting to see how Mr Fox does - I think it is excellent to see a new, independent face standing against the establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 It would be so nice to see a breath of fresh air in there(the Scottish Parliament) with someone who is honest about how Shetland is being shafted and who is really willing to fight Shetland's corner and help stop the relentless Scottification of Shetland. I hope that Billy Fox is that man but I also hope he appreciates how tough it's going to be dealing with the plethora of constituent problems and dealing with the bigger issues. Tavish Scott is in favour of the windfarm because he knows that the fishing industry is in it's last years of life and Shetland will need something to replace it(although I doubt that the windfarm would do that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Pretty Sure Tavish is neutral about the windfarm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yes, so he doesn't alienate his potential voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Tavish is in a bit of a "no win" situation here. Whatever he says about the wind farm issue is liable to cost him votes. Probably safest to say that he is in favour of the principle of wind farms but wants more information about specific issues before making up his mind about the Viking Energy proposal. Bit like me really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted April 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 Not sure if this is allowed but so far as I know I have never met the man and I am most certainly not canvassing for him but I think Billy Fox has a nice little website as part of his bid to be elected. Found here http://www.billyfox.co.uk/ Of course that kind of supposes that he wants to be elected rather than just standing to gain publicity for Sustainable Shetland. My gut reaction is that he does but I will be listening to anything he has to say with interest. Of course we have another vote to cast on the 5th May and that is in the referendum to change the voting system from one where almost all people elected have more people voting against them than for them to one where the result will more closely match peoples wishes. So I think it is a good idea but as part of democracy I would urge those against the idea to vote. Just not quite so many of you as those in favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Well, here we have the BBC up to its usual "politics". http://www.shetnews.co.uk/component/content/article/36-latest-new/273-fox-slams-undemocratic-bbc.html It's not as if there are too many candidates to "fit around the table". What a sham and it seems they've learnt nothing from previous elections.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 There are areas that have tens of independents standing for seats. Imagine the whole debate with that many folk. So if the BBC were to say, ok, in Shetland we will have all candidates, and other areas no. It would be too complicated a policy to write, enforce and perhaps justify.You would not want the BBC to be selective in that way. You will probably find that Offcom have a say in it. In our radio station, we have policies directed by Offcom. Fox is a single issue candidate, his main reason to stand is to highlight objections to a windfarm and general environment policies. according to his website he has no issues. The imprint needs to say Published to make things clear. It could be a legal hurdle. I would check it out. We had to put Printed or Published by on our stuff. As well as the full address. He would need to get some high powered support to get in with the established lot. After all, he is just one person. we all need support. Watch those expenses tho. And he can still have his say. With his supporters he should be able to rally them and get organised. You will not change the BBC policy I think, not in time for the elections. I think he should get going with his issues, also a few views on other linked problems that come to light. I wish him the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Well, here we have the BBC up to its usual "politics". http://www.shetnews.co.uk/component/content/article/36-latest-new/273-fox-slams-undemocratic-bbc.html It's not as if there are too many candidates to "fit around the table". What a sham and it seems they've learnt nothing from previous elections.... What would happen if Billy Fox was to win this time and to stand again as an independent in the next Holyrood election. Would the BBC refuse him a seat at the table because he was not from the "big four" despite him having been our MSP?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enkelt skapninger Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I've no clue who to vote for this time.If the Lib Dems hadn't turned out to be Tory turncoats they'd have had my vote again. If Billy Fox wasn't anti-windfarm he'd get my vote. I guess it'll be SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I guess it'll be SNP. better to spoil the paper than vote for those twats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I guess it'll be SNP. After the pig's ear they've made of everything there last few years....I can understand not wanting to support the Libs with their rubber principles, or either Lab or Tory, but man, you must be very pro-windfarm to discount a potential candidate on anti-windfarm grounds alone. If he were to be elected, and did his job with integrity, his personal stance should take second place to representing the wishes of the electorate, and the only way to test that integrity is by giving the man a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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