George. Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Hillswick is a very quiet place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piddly Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 OP8S wrote:Piddly says that girls are prostituting themselves to finance drug habits ( I'll not ask how he/she knows, what people do in their own time & all that. ) Ha! Not quite had to go down that road.....YET!!!!! Just to clear up, the girl(s) are prostituting themselves to the drug dealers in exchange for their 'hit'. I'm not and have never been aware of anyone selling their wears to the general public at the moment, but as a few have said, it has been done before and will likely happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 And let's be honest, it'll never go out of fashion!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland_boys Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 why is paying for sex ileagle anyway, im sure in plenty of countrys its pretty normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George. Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Germany, The Netherlands to name a couple. I must admit that I always think, if it is made legal then there is control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 why is paying for sex ileagle anyway, im sure in plenty of countrys its pretty normal Paying for sex in the UK is not illegal, kerb crawling, soliciting and running a brothel are illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OP8S Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 OP8S wrote:Piddly says that girls are prostituting themselves to finance drug habits ( I'll not ask how he/she knows, what people do in their own time & all that. ) Ha! Not quite had to go down that road.....YET!!!!! Just to clear up, the girl(s) are prostituting themselves to the drug dealers in exchange for their 'hit'. I'm not and have never been aware of anyone selling their wears to the general public at the moment, but as a few have said, it has been done before and will likely happen again. I wasn't making any accusations there, just a bit shocked at the thought of a Red light District in the Isles. I understand now that it is hidden from the public eye, I suppose in an Island where everybody knows each others business ( or think they do ) the people involved must keep it very quiet indeed. I'm quite surprised that Shetland's drug dealers accept anything but hard cash from a working girl as well. Down in my neck of the woods drug dealers treat any unfortunate girl even worse than the rest of society does. Exploiting them & treating them as if they are some lower form of life, they're more likely to send them out to earn their cash rather than accept a favour for drugs & if they don't have the cash then they just have to suffer. It's still a very sheltered society in Shetland, some out of the box thinking needs to be done before the island catches up with some of the rougher areas of the mainland.Now before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I was told a pretty shocking stastic yesterday, taken from CADSS. In Shetland alone in 2005 - 2006 they handed out just under 5000 needles in the year 2009 - 2010 they handed out just over 20,000 with an average age of users being 19 - 24.. Not sure where i am going with this as I am still stunned but something is failing somewhere and as OP8S says I cant help but feel Shetland is on the verge of experience the darkside of Drug use in a huge scale and the powers at be wont be able to hide the facts for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner72 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Just to clear up, the girl(s) are prostituting themselves to the drug dealers in exchange for their 'hit'. I'm not and have never been aware of anyone selling their wears to the general public at the moment, but as a few have said, it has been done before and will likely happen again. This is, as I understand it, how thing start, possibly the girls even think they are in a "relationship" to begin with. Then when they have got them hooked the dealers are no longer intersted and it becomes more like prostitution, until the dealing becomes purely financial and the girls see only one option to get the money. It's not just girls either, I am sure a high percentage of the young boys we see regularly in the media for various "petty" crimes are just being manipulated by the drug culture in a similar fashion. I am shocked by the apparent scale of things here in Shetland, but not shocked that it goes on without being noticed, for the most part, by so many. Despite the close communitys there has always been a strangely strong division between those involved in drugs/crime and those who just go about their lives normally. Whether thats good or bad, I'm not sure. But I agree the its a divide that is about to burst at the seams.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkusoBruntskerry Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I used to think I would want my family to grow up in Shetland as it was generally a safe environment; I grew up in the isles and had absolutely no problems with fighting, drugs, muggings etc etc but over the past few years I am down heartened with the way Shetland has gone, I had never heard about a mugging in Shetland until a few weeks ago, The police cells were full over a particular weekend and fights breaking out on a regular basis. In all my years in Shetland I had never seen a fight but now it seens to be a common and acceptable event to happen. A friend of my was subjected to an attempted muggin by two Polish guy's fortunately when they tried to over power the lad they failed and ended up on the wrong side of a few black eyes. But if this is the way Shetland has gone; and I have seen any improvement in a long time I struggle to see what the benefits of bringing up a family in Shetland will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland_boys Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 well atleast shetland is becoming more like south , maybe we will get a propper cinema and KFC next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 well atleast shetland is becoming more like south , maybe we will get a propper cinema and KFC next They're nearly finished the cinema and I'm kind of glad Shetland isn't filled with KFC and the like, sets it apart from everywhere else in Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OP8S Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 This is, as I understand it, how thing start, possibly the girls even think they are in a "relationship" to begin with. Then when they have got them hooked the dealers are no longer intersted and it becomes more like prostitution, until the dealing becomes purely financial and the girls see only one option to get the money. It's not just girls either, I am sure a high percentage of the young boys we see regularly in the media for various "petty" crimes are just being manipulated by the drug culture in a similar fashion. I am shocked by the apparent scale of things here in Shetland, but not shocked that it goes on without being noticed, for the most part, by so many. Despite the close communitys there has always been a strangely strong division between those involved in drugs/crime and those who just go about their lives normally. Whether thats good or bad, I'm not sure. But I agree the its a divide that is about to burst at the seams.. Supply & demand or demand & supply there has always been opiate use in Shetland. 100 years ago it would be perfectly legal to purchase diamorphine " tincture of opium ". 40 years ago you could become a registered addict & recieve it from your GP. For the last 40 years illicit opiate use has increased throughout the U.K as it is now purely in the hands of the criminal black market. I doubt that each dealer lures young girls into drug use by pretending that they are in a relationship. No dealer is going to go to the bother of that, it wouldn't be a very efficient way of gaining custom & if a boy or girl finds themselves gaining money to finance an addiction then the dealer won't touch them with a barge pole. As I said before they're more than likely to be treated worse by their dealer than society does already. The dealer knows that they are in a position of extreme power & that his customers male or female will do almost anything that they ask them to if they have a physical dependence on the substance. They won't want any favours of the more intimate kind I'd imagine, more than likely they will accuse them of having an std & give them a slap then tell them to be on their way. That is until they have some cash for them, or something shoplifted to order. These f£$kers really are ruthless, probably don't touch the stuff themselves, all they care about is the money & the "powder power" that they hold over others. Personally I would prefer anybody I know that has a physical dependence on any substance to be treated within the law by a trained medical professional, as was the case 40 odd years ago.The current system obviously is failing us. A view shared recently in the media by the head of The Crown Prosecution Service, the head of MI5 & various other MPs & various experts in the field. Why is nothing being done about it ? Surely the alcohol industry isn't donating that much to political parties...then again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorfus chucklepants Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 In all my years in Shetland I had never seen a fight but now it seens to be a common and acceptable event to happen. Fighting was just as common in the past, whether it be at a country dance, the Cross, at a football match or outside the Planets. I think the difference is that then the police didn't get involved except possibly to break things up. Nowadays, arrests would be made and events much more widely reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMagnie Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 well atleast shetland is becoming more like south , maybe we will get a propper cinema and KFC next It won't be properly like sooth until the cinema closes down and is turned into a discount carpet warehouse. But of course, that couldn't possibly happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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