Guest Anonymous Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I don't go to church because I believe that, in most societies, organised religion is a tool used by the ruling classes to scare the proles into doing their bidding. QUIET YOU!!! GRRRR, I'M ALL POWERFUL DON'T CHA KNOW? NOW GO MAKE ME A SANDWICH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Okay. Been holding off on this topic for a little while now but it is time to voice my opinions. I am a believer! That is. I am a believer in folk believing what they want to, providing they don't push it on others. As has been stated already in this thread, religion is the cause of most war and destruction around the globe. It doesn't seem to matter what god you believe in or how pacifying your religion is supposed to be, it will still end in arguments. Good will to all men? Love thy neighbour? I believe that some people have a need to believe in something. The thought that we are here by chance rather than somebody putting us here and that after death there is nothing rather than a nice place to go is too much for some folk and so they go off to seek a reason. Look at many an American "Priest". Most of it is commercialised crap and they are millionnaires. The whole Heavens Gate thing proved that there are a lot of gullible/willing to be brainwashed folk out there. Through history the truth gets warped in many ways. There are many an old wives tale that is still in existance today merely because it was used as a way to get children scared into a position they would listen. Many a childrens nursery rhyme started out as a rude, drunken song. It was altered for the kids benefit. Who says the bible is any different? Could it have been written by a bloke that was up the hills one night dining out on exotic mushrooms? Of course not! I reckon that a lot of religion involves a lot of brainwashing/social engineering. I have met quite a few people who (rather than being brought up into a religion) have joined at a certain age (Mid 20's/Mid Life) and with nearly all of them I can safely say that they have been looking for 'something'. If it has made them happy then all the best to them. On another note...the Mormons came along one day. I politely told them to leave. They then went to my garage and tried knocking on the door in the hope someone would appear. I have photos... On another note...is it true that a Mormon man can have as many wives as he pleases? Tempting was dat day du sent dem to wir hus ya bas***D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'm agnostic, but I do like hanging out in Churches and visiting them, soleley for the atmosphere and for a look around. They can be great places to chill out and the art work in them is often quite impressive. Don't suppose anyone else does this? There is also one in Edinburgh that gives out free bacon rools on a Sunday morning at 10am, which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortio Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 There is also one in Edinburgh that gives out free bacon rools on a Sunday morning at 10am, which is nice. they're always banging on about rules, maybe they've decided that church attendance figures would be improved if they counted any bacon present in the congregation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 There is also one in Edinburgh that gives out free bacon rools on a Sunday morning at 10am, which is nice. I'm listening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 I think a lot of folk are put off church because, as I think someone has already stated, a lot of Christians are not very nice people! I recall certain teachers that were "God Botherers" at the AHS. One of whom was a nasty, spiteful woman who seemed to delight in belittling her pupils. However, the atheist contingent (pretty much all of the Modern Studies / English Department) usually seemed pretty decent. I admit this is not always the case - my mother is a Christian and I guess she’s alright! However, on an international level, there's something quite scary about the power wielded by the religious right, especially in the US. I think this makes a lot of people rather wary of the church. The message of charity, understanding and “loving thy neighbour†seems to have been replaced my intolerance, ignorance and sheep-like following of the Bush administration. Hardly inspiration to fight off the hangover and go church on Sunday morning. I found this link yesterday - it's a trailer for a movie about Mormons welcoming Mr Michael Moore to their state .It's a bit mental, but it kinda sums up the mentality that many, sadly, associate with faith in God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29vHG0CRP-M&search=michael%20moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriewife Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I used to go to church as it was expected of me by my family. I believe in god but i do not go to church because i do not and never have liked the way that religion is often not led by faith anymore but by the organisation behind it. I used to class myself as a christian as i was told i was but when i became old enough to research the faith and know what was behind it etc i decided that although i believed in god, i did not believe what they taught. I will not put my children to sunday school and i will not be bringing them up with a religion but if they ever have any questions regarding faith i will give my own opinion and state that it is my own opinion and point them in the way of finding out themselves what they feel makes sense to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnie Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I don't believe in God, god, or gods. And I find it difficult to understand how one group of people who purport to be doing God's work can be more evil (or more good) than another group of people who purport to be doing God's work. Why should someone who lives a good life as a Muslim be damned to hell just because they don't believe in a Christian god? Or vice versa. It's stupid. And it's ignorant. Religion is used, and has always been used as a means of controlling the masses. And that's about all it's good for. lynnie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I don't believe in God, god, or gods. And I find it difficult to understand how one group of people who purport to be doing God's work can be more evil (or more good) than another group of people who purport to be doing God's work. Why should someone who lives a good life as a Muslim be damned to hell just because they don't believe in a Christian god? Or vice versa. It's stupid. And it's ignorant. Religion is used, and has always been used as a means of controlling the masses. And that's about all it's good for. lynnie. I am ashamed to admit, but it rather proves a point, that my own mother, who recently got God in a bad way, has told me that as I don't believe specifically in her branch of christianity, that I will burn in hell. What sort of God turns mother against son in such a way? It has made me decide to be really bad for the rest of my life though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I believe in Good almighty. The jury is still out on God Almighty. However if God is Good and a christian to boot then I believe that the smug christians who judge others by their own standards may be in for a shock.Do unto others etc. and I am sure that, providing your intention, is Good then God, if he is Good, will be good to you! And if you do all that still end up in hell, then he is not a Good God after all.Good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollydodo Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I used to go to church regularly, but not any longer, though I (think) that I do believe in a God - most of the time - and consider myself a Christian. This does not mean that I am a religious fanatic, or a 'goodie goodie'. Far from it!! But I believe in treating everyone fairly and helping my neighbour when he/she is in need. There are many different ways of worshipping, apart from the singing of out of date hymns, bible reading and listening to a sermon (or not!!). I feel much closer to a Divine Being on a Sunday by taking a long walk along da banks. This is so much more spiritually uplifting than sitting in a dingy church. I think that a lot of folk have become disillusioned by the church (which by the way comprises the people rather than the church building itself). Many church members are not seen to set a very good example and act and behave towards others in what can only be considered as an unchristianlike manner. I have a friend in Aberdeen who is a committed Christian and is heavily involved in her local church. Her husband is an athiest. But she says that he lives a Christian life every bit as much as she does. Perhaps that is what it is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartanlass Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Dont go to church as fed up wi religion and God as the daughter of minister all i have to do is phone my Dad for a sermon if want to be preached too. Got dragged to Church at least once a week till was 14 now i resent it so wont ever step inside one again!! Chruches are boring as they are they need to livened up if want to attract the younger people in and keep them interested to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriesooky Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 i huv nithing against religions per se, or at least the message behind most religions which are in essence pretty much the same, jist diffrent wirding. whit i do have a problem wi is da folk running it, da organisations etc. efter aa, christ wisna a christian. christianity came efter his death. christianity wis whit his followers decided it wid be, not whit christ told them it wid be. the organised religions are flawed through their humanised errors and misguided interpretations of often very sound and decent moral codes etc, but which gets lost through people putting their ain slant on it. in summation, religious beliefs, good. religious organisations, bad. in my ain view onywhy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanman Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I'm agnostic, but I do like hanging out in Churches and visiting them, soleley for the atmosphere and for a look around. They can be great places to chill out and the art work in them is often quite impressive. Don't suppose anyone else does this? Yeh I do that sometimes, especialy abroad. There are some amazing buildings both inside and out. I still have no idea why some people go there to praise the lord but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriesooky Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 dus da hael grand lavish churches thing nae go aginst whit jesus preached? efter aa, he wis aginst da money lenders in the temples (idea dat money corrupts faith and aa dat - doot hi wid a no bin happy aboot da collection plate) and he carries oot his sermons outdoors, in fields, hilltops and aa dat. his message seemed tae be mair it wisna how lavish da churches wir and hoo weel da ministers were presented and aa dat bruk, bit how du lived yir life dat wis important and aa dat seems tae hae bin forgotten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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