glipper Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 According to the rioters the reason they are doing this is because they havent got money and cant get jobs. What a load off nonsence no money no job cant get a job what about the 31 year old teacher who's been charged he had a good job pleanty of money but no longer has a job i would think...All he had in mind was mindless thuggery and has ruined other peoples lives i hope every last one of them rot in jail...They blame our goverment god help Lerwick if every time the Shetland Island Council have made a muck up us Shetland people would go on the rampage and riot we would be at it every other week.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njugle Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 An elderly associate of mine reckons quite sincerely that they should start shooting the rioters below the waist with shotguns, having the double effect of deterring them from rioting and easily identifying the guilty parties. They've really brought out the worst in everybody. Edit - mind you, food dye in the water cannon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 The mugging of the Malaysian student Asyraf Haziq is just so despciable.Hope they catch all the Ned thugs involved?As for our Prime Minister. Took his time coming back from his holiday in Italy. He should of been back by Saturday dealing with the riots!!He calls the riots an attack on Britain.Hey Dave..How dare you.It happened in England!!Not Scotland, Wales or Ireland.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groilick Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 An elderly associate of mine reckons quite sincerely that they should start shooting the rioters below the waist with shotguns, having the double effect of deterring them from rioting and easily identifying the guilty parties. .. Guid notion –an hit wid stop da beggers breedin toe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 They've really brought out the worst in everybody. Edit - mind you, food dye in the water cannon..... I agree to an extent, some of the suggestions made on how to deal with the problem are a tad extreme. However, would you not agree that the police haven't been firm enough so far. They could have had it nipped in the bud reasonably quickly if they hadn't shown a willingness to only contain and not arrest. I do honestly think when faced with a water cannon instead of a group of bobbies lightly jogging at them a hundred yards behind that rioters would disperse bloody quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 did you not see the footage of the police in manchester. i think those lads on bikes thought they were being forceful enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 ^I saw it and in the grand scheme of things it made little difference as it happened in Manchester four days after the trouble started in London. If the London police had dealt with the rioters in a firmer manner from the first night there might have been less enthusiasm in the rest of England to chance their hand at looting. The only thing that will come from the officer battering the boy on the bike is that one more policeman will be taken off the streets and the person who got a whallop will get compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 i really hope not but most likely. pity that the caught rioters are not charged with more serious charges. real jail time would be a very good deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaepshot Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I heard on the radio today that one of the most popular items to be stolen in the Manchester riots was T shirts with I LOVE MANCHESTER on them!Some way of showing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/hacking-becomes-latest-weapon-in-london-riots-updated/54451 Seems the hackers have been at the blackberry site and left them a threat... You Will _NOT_ assist the UK Police because if u do innocent members of the public who were at the wrong place at the wrong time and owned a blackberry will get charged for no reason at all, the Police are looking to arrest as many people as possible to save themselves from embarrassment…. if you do assist the police by giving them chat logs, gps locations, customer information & access to peoples BlackBerryMessengers you will regret it, we have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g – Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. – now if u assist the police, we _WILL_ make this information public and pass it onto rioters…. do you really want a bunch of angry youths on your employees doorsteps? So they want to protect the innocent members of the public by attacking the innocent employees of BlackBerry? Blatently looks like the hackers are just trying to protect their own wider interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OP8S Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I do hope that some of the posts made on what punishment is bestowed on the rioters are just simply knee-jerk reactions made by people living in what is an idylic setting compared to the inner cities of the U.K. The rioters actions cannot be condoned by any means, there is no political driving force behind the civil unrest. In fact it seems to be spurred on by greed more than any political idealism. Surely if there was some political agenda behind it then the rioters would be focusing their anger towards banks, multi-national corporations & the like. It's in-exucseable to be targetting small business's such as the example posted of the 89 year old man's barber shop, who is probably making a meagre earning himself while at the same time providing his community with a service that I imagine goes further than simply cutting hair. A place where regulars socialise at the same time.This being the case I would be very wary of providing police with any more powers than they already have at present. IMO they have quite enough & it could be the case that they are just not using them to their full potential, many people on the news have commented on the fact that while the police are ready & waiting for it to kick off in one area, the looters are already congregating in another. Something that baffles me as the U.K has more CCTV in operation than most other countries in the world. I'm sure lessons will be learnt from this period of civil unrest but to introduce legislation or pass policy at this time I would find very worrying indeed, purely for the reason that at some point the U.K public may have some important political issue that may effect us all negatively. Whatever the issue may be a large % of the public may feel the need to protest against it, by means of demonstration. An example of this could have been the recent student demonstrations, which for most was a relatively peaceful show of strength but with a minority of violent outbursts. Outbursts which could of become far more violent if any hyped-up riot police used anymore forceful methods at there disposal.It only takes one trigger-happy plod excited at the thought of using their newest bit of kit to escalate what may be a rowdy situation into an uncontrollable riot in which the difference between somebody peacefully demonstrating to somebody actively breaking the law can become easily blurred. Causing an innoccent person to be injured or possibly killed. The Police have plenty of equipment & laws available to them at present. It's up to them how to utilise these methods of crowd control best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I would like to begin with my customary disclaimer that the views expressed herein are my own, and do not represent, in any way, those I work with nor the Police service. Ah, me. I had a small wager with my own "Watson" as to how long it would take someone to infer blame upon the Police for the actions of a (semi-organised) mob, intent not on political protests or defending their rights to free speech and congregation as unlawfully obtaining the latest K-Swiss or Blackberry for free while having a jolly good time causing wanton destruction and burning Mrs Miggins' pie shop to the ground. I imagine they were set off by some "hyped up riot police" or "trigger happy plod" and were merely displaying their democratic rights to protest against the tyranny of the "plod". Shame on the Police for inciting such an orgy of violence and destruction, what? Perhaps they should keep all the riot Police on desk duty, lest they spark or incite any more such situations. After all, everyone knows it is always the Police to blame. Correct? Like my somewhat beleaguered colleagues South of the border, I remain, Your humble servant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 All though I agree with our forever humble servant I still hold a belief that had the riots stopped after Saturday or Sunday we would of been speaking some what differently about what has happened over the last few days and I cant help but feel that the actions of some thugs and thieves has defused the action of a policeman in Tottenham and the way it appeared to be covered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I've just read on another forum on why these riots started... it is all because xfactor is not on tv at the moment and they have nothing to watch and vote on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Master Twerto, If a Police Officer in Tottenham behaved in any way unlawfully, my own opinion is he should face the same full weight of the law as that promised to these young roister-doisters partaking in the violence and destruction (and, of course, out and out theft!). Your humble servant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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