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  1. 1. What do you think of the lack of 2 minute silence on SIBC today?

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Guest Anonymous

Just so you can understand my views a little better, Allow me to explain... I've served my 'Queen and country' and seen, first hand, The propaganda machine in action from the green side. I know some seriously nasty, disturbed people from the army that some would see as heroes if they'd been killed by an IED. People should not be classed as heroes because some people do heroic acts!

 

@ Shetlandpeat

If you feel so strongly about the Legions charity work why don't you lobby for the government to take responsibility for the service personnel that they put in harms way?

 

@ Parahandy

Don't get me wrong.. I'm all up for a fight if it's unavoidable and justified but many died for Mr Blairs little 'faux pas' (an act which I personally feel is treasonous!). [***Mod edit - content removed***]

 

@Paulb

"the poppy was part of the hope after the great war for it never to happen again." Almost 100 years on and they're still calling it the 'Great' war.. That's the mentality that supports future conflict.

 

And, It does get used as a political tool...

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=anti%20poppy%20day&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organizedrage.com%2F2010%2F11%2Fpoppy-day-is-monstrosity-because-it.html&ei=gaO9TsPgNsmQ4gTUzfiVBA&usg=AFQjCNGiTgSHfWhQSZcrtW3leZatuoQuGg

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@ Shetlandpeat

If you feel so strongly about the Legions charity work why don't you lobby for the government to take responsibility for the service personnel that they put in harms way?

 

 

A friend of mine was doing a house to house collection for the poppy appeal when he met someone who had not been born in the UK. After getting an explanation about what the money collected was used for the person gave him a surprised look and said "You mean your government doesn't do that already?"

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^^ You bothered to post that the British government not only gave minimal support to ex-service personnel but it's now been cut because of economics? Aren't you embarrassed?

The same system that will eventually persecute people with my views as being 'unpatriotic', will continue to forget about 'the heroes' except for 1 week of the year. Wearing a poppy in parliament isn't enough!

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^^ You bothered to post that the British government not only gave minimal support to ex-service personnel but it's now been cut because of economics?

 

Erm, I think that is quite obvious.

 

Funding has slowly been eaten away and removed in some cases. Many of the homeless are ex military that I meet and many are in our prisons.

Yet it is the public that has let this happen. If the public do not want to get involved, it can take a while to turn it around.

When you meet folk who have had their life messed up because the passenger in their landrover in N.I. had his brains blown out all over him by a sniper, then discharged into this world without any meaningful follow up or help and watch him constantly get in trouble, you wonder why folk do not get more involved to put it right. To many, donating to wear a poppy is the only way they know how.

It is only recently that the attention has been brought back to this subject, by the setting up of more charities. Perhaps the only way is for there to be no charities, then the GOV will have to do something, the harm that would do would to folk would not be worth the price. The MOD are not known for their caring side, saying that, the charities are stretched now. If you were in need, you would get regular visits from the Legion and in the case of RAF personnel the RAFA. This seems not to happen, well not in my family.

 

Back on subject now, the commercial station I am forced to listen to did have the 2 min silence. Though now there is a claim that SIBC did observe the silence.

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^^ Sorry if you thought I was taking the p**s mate but It's something I feel very strongly about. I fully agree that, although they do great work, the charity culture in this country has alleviated our government of their responsibilities. Not just in the disgraceful abandonment of the ones they wear a red badge for once a year, But in all sector of vulnerable and unsupported citizens.

When the government come-rattling a collection box for missiles... I'll know the coffers are dry!

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I understand your sentiment.

Preston is full of military and is proud of its history.

The sad part is that the army will recruit in the poorer areas for foot soldiers. Then they are discharged, generally angry young men.

It is the mental health of these men that is damaged by the training, on the otherhand, they need to be trained to remove feeling when carrying out the nitty gritty part of their orders.

Some are able to control it but others, like you say, are only heroes once they have fallen. It has been going on for years, I do feel it is the product of the beast, there may be little you can do sometimes to control it.

I have, very slowly mind, been working my way through the chaps buried at The Knab. Finding out a little of their fate and in some cases, the sadness behind it, though I have heard one amusing tale.

I also think that if colour film was popular before 1939, we may have a different thought about war.

 

I will be in the parade here, I will be wearing my Dads blazer and be armed with thoughts of my Grandad and Great Uncles.

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I saw no two minutes silence on Shetlink either. So here it is for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now don't forget how we got to where we are. Wear that poppy with pride for the past.

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There will be very few people around now that can remember anyone involved in WW1 and the number of folk that can relate to WW2 is shrinking massively. Is it therefore not about time to remember it as history now, perhaps continue to teach what was learned but give up on the two minutes silence. It's too long gone now.

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